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4-29-2008 @ 5:29PM
Simmer down there, Francis.I play a retardin as my main and took absolutely no offense to anything written here.
4-29-2008 @ 5:38PM
I doubt you're a Retribution Paladin, from calling yourself a Retardin. It offended me because Retributions Utility is to refresh Judgments. Zach here is saying that Holy is left out of this Utility. If Holy could do everything Retribution did then nobody would bring Ret Paladins. Next thing he'll want Holy to be able to tank as well as Protection. After all that Plate armor isn't going to be put into any good use. BTW, 650 mana every 15 seconds is 2600 mana per minute. Most boss fights last for 10 minutes so 2,600 X 10 minutes = 26,000. If Holy Shock could refresh Judgments it would leave little mana for healing.
4-29-2008 @ 5:53PM
Dukenukemx,You sir insult your own class/spec, implying that ret pallys cannot contribute damage high enough to give them reason to take a raid spot aside from their utility. Sit down and shut your face buddy, you're making the rest of us retadins look bad.
4-29-2008 @ 5:55PM
While I applaud your enthusiasm, he is unfortunately correct. Ret pally DPS isn't high enough to justify bringing them on progression raids without CS.
4-29-2008 @ 6:06PM
BTW350 mana (rank 1) * 20 seconds * 10 mins =14,000 mana.So your math is waay off. But I kinda agree with the point still. Reading this article really does point out how pally mechanics break down across specs.Things like the new ret itemization at least show that things are being tweaked, and gives me hope for future talents in WOTLK.
4-29-2008 @ 6:21PM
[quote]Dukenukemx,You sir insult your own class/spec, implying that ret pallys cannot contribute damage high enough to give them reason to take a raid spot aside from their utility. Sit down and shut your face buddy, you're making the rest of us retadins look bad.[/quote]I top dps all the time in raids, but no class is brought just for dps.Mages --> SheepWarlocks --> Banish, FearHunters --> Ice Trap, Miss DirectIf a hybrid dps has no Utility then there isn't a reason for you to have a raid spot. Hybrid dps always does sub par dps with little useful Utility other then increasing dps for the raid. Take away a Ret Paladins Seal/Judgment system and you take away them away from raids.
4-29-2008 @ 6:35PM
@15 / Dukenukemx - Paladins = Blessings/Auras/Divine Intervention/Lay on Hands. Like I said, if you're only brought to raids because you can refresh Judgements, you're a crappy Retribution Paladin.
4-29-2008 @ 6:46PM
@16 / Zech Don't you got better things to do, like correct your article? If I'm so crappy at Ret then why is it that I know that Judgment of Command is based on spell hit? Go back to spamming Flash of Light. It seems simple enough for you to understand.
4-30-2008 @ 4:29PM
I am a retribution paladin, but I am not overly sensitive about my class and I realize its limitations as well as take all the ret hatred in jest. I am a guild GM so I always have a raid spot, perhaps that is why I'm not bitter.Regardless, on some nights I swap out my ret pally to play my fire mage because even I know my DPS is limited and if we are a little behind, I swap out my faithful retardin (see what I did there) and hop on my mage.
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