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4-30-2008 @ 5:56AM
@35 Zach said...[quote]See? That wasn't hard to do, was it? Civil dialog is as easy as... spamming Flash of Light.[/quote]Yea I see, posts fade and become unreadable. Gotta love the nazi forums. [quote]They're not quite there yet, but they show signs of knowing what to do. 2.3 was a big step and the proposed change to Seal of the Crusader means they KNOW nobody uses it as a seal.[/quote]Either that or they're preparing for the big pre WOTLK patch. The Seal is still useless beyond leveling your weapon skills. [quote]They're smart, and I'm confident they're moving in the right direction.[/quote]Smart? Like how some Retribution spells are still based on spell damage? Especially Judgment of Command which is based on +spell hit.It's one of the few reasons why Seal of Blood is wanted by Alliance. It's hits for bullshit, but at least it hits for some damage. BTW, 1 year later and Retribution is still not properly fixed. You need one year to fix a class? [quote]If judgements refreshed on ALL attacks, this is good for the class overall. I don't think Retribution is in jeopardy... remember that Judgements stay for 20 seconds and Holy Shock is on a 15 second timer. [/quote]More importantly would be the mana cost for a Holy Paladin to refresh a Judgment. Even at Rank 1 Holy Shock, it'll still eat plenty of mana. Then there's the global cool down...[quote]IMO, the recommendation to have Judgements refresh on any Paladin attack (e.g. including Avenger's Shield) can only mean good things for the class as a whole. It should, in theory, even free up Crusader Strike for a different raid-wide buff.[/quote]Crusader Strike should put up a debuff of some kind to begin with. From my experience, if Blizzard taketh away from Ret, then they giveth to Holy and nothing in return to Retribution. Consecrate was once a Retribution spell, as was Kings, and Precision. At least now Consecrate is a spell that every Paladin gets, but for a while we had to spec down Holy to get it. Ever time Holy gets a buff, then Retribution gets an equal nerf, and it goes just like that. Unfortunately, when Holy gets a nerf, then it also reflects Ret as well. The only time Retribution gets a buff is when the Paladins on the forums had enough. Suddenly, there are posts everywhere and shits flying. If it wasn't for Retribution Paladins bitching on the forums, we'd never get our threat reduction.
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