Scattered Shots: Why certain pet families are so popular

You hear it pretty much all the time if you've ever slightly dipped into the world of Hunters. If you want to play in the big leagues, conventional wisdom says you're pretty much stuck with a select handful of pet types (also known as pet families): Ravagers, Cats, and Raptors for PvE, Scorpids for PvP.
But do you know why those pet families are so desired? What it really comes down to is Hunter roles and abilities.
DPS: The PvE Hunter pet's raison d'etre.
In PvE, a Hunter has one role: DPS. Yes, he can bring a little bit of extra utility in the form of traps, dispelling, mana drain, pet off-tanking, and Misdirection, and I shall not deny that, but his ultimate role is to make sure the boss dies fast by optimizing his DPS. One aspect of Hunter DPS is their pet, especially if they are Beastmastery specced. So in order to do the best DPS they can, a Hunter must get a pet who turns out the best DPS. Ravagers, Cats, and Raptors fill this role the most readily, for two reasons.
The first reason is their base damage. Each pet family will have innate modifiers as compared to a baseline of their DPS, HP, and AC. Sometimes it will be a positive modifier, sometimes a negative modifier. In the case of the aforementioned Cats, Ravagers, and Raptors, they all have a +10% modifier to their DPS, which means that they will do more base DPS than most other pet families.
The second reason is their skills. Each of these pet families also has a focus dump. Quite a few pure DPS hunter builds will include one of two talents that provide extra focus to a pet: Go for the Throat and Bestial Discipline. With these abilities in play, chances are your pet will eventually have some excess focus to get rid of. When that time comes, what they need is a focus dump: That is, an instant-cast damage ability that has no cooldown (apart from the global cooldown). Raptors and Cats have this in the form of Claw, while Ravagers have Gore. They also all have Dash, which means they can close with the enemy and begin DPSing quickly. All of this means that they will always be able to use their focus to churn out as much damage as possible, thus contributing to their master's main role in a raid or group.
Cleanse and Abolish Poison: Why Scorpids are the kings of PvP pets.
In PvP, a Hunter is still considered a DPSer, but the fact of the matter is that PvP opponents are bit more wily and have better self-preservation instincts than your average PvE mob. They won't just stand there and get tanked while you plink them with your shot rotation. Thus, in this case, you need to use your utility a bit more often. Scatter Shot and traps play a large role in PvP for a Hunter for sure, but Viper Sting may be one of the Hunter's most infamous and useful Arena abilities.
The problem with Viper Sting is that it can be dispelled rather easily by both Paladins and Druids, taking away a major part of a Hunter's ability to counter them in the Arenas. Improved Stings is one way to deal with this, but it doesn't always do the trick. The other way to deal with this is by stacking additional poisons. While you can do this with Snake Trap, there is the problem of luring the Paladin or Druid into the trap in the first place, and the fact that you may need to save your Trap cooldown for Freezing or Frost Traps. Luckily, there is one other option in this case: the Scorpid pet.
Scorpid Poison is the secret to the success of many an Arena hunter. It is a Poison-based DoT that stacks up to five times. What this means is that if you let your Scorpid stack it on your target and then let off a Viper Sting, Your Paladin will have to Cleanse the target up to 6 times (possibly even more with Improved Stings) to get the Viper sting off. Likewise, a Druid's Abolish Poison will have to tick up to 6 times (that's more than one cast worth of ticks) to rid it of Viper Sting. It's still a bit of a roulette, but there is a strong chance that the Viper Sting will have stayed up a lot longer than it would have had your pet not been a Scorpid.
The Final Verdict: Does this mean you absolutely need to use these families?
It's true that these pet families will probably be the kings of Hunter pets unless Blizzard starts looking seriously at adding new pet skills again, and they will probably all feel omnipresent for quite some time to come. There's little arguing that they aren't the absolute best for their roles. Still, there are Hunters who cling tenaciously to some of the other "inferior" pet families. I should know, I'm one of them. Are these Hunters crazy? Can you really get along with one of those other pet families? I say you can.
While some other families might not do quite as much DPS in PvE, they can have some utility that still makes them useful. The flying pet families have the Screech skill, which is an excellent aggro grabber and a nice small debuff for group situations. In addition, the Bat and Owl families have a 7% DPS boost, making them nearly as good as the big three families for PvE DPS. Boars are hurting a bit since the Charge/Growl nerf, but they still have the Gore focus dump, and Charge provides a brutal opening hit. Finally, there's been some argument among certain Hunters that if you can get high enough crit to be constantly supplying your pet with focus via Go for the Throat, a Wind Serpent's Lightning Breath will provide the highest pet DPS possible.
In PvP, you may have already realized that Scorpids are technically highly situational. If the player or team you are fighting against has no way to remove poisons, you would technically be better off with a pet that can do a bit more DPS, or that has a stamina bonus to take a few more hits. Also, in Battlegrounds, the fighting is chaotic enough that there will probably be enough debuffs on the target to keep your Viper Sting masked even without Scorpid Poison, if they're even able to get their teammates to cleanse them at all.
Even beyond all that, there is a simple truth that some Hunters aren't concerned as much about what their pet can do as much as how cool it looks. Honestly, I think there's a place for those Hunters too. In the end, if your Raid or group leader or your PvP team members are willing to take a slight hit to DPS or utility, and you still have a solid grasp of things like Pet control and shot rotations, It's my opinion, at least, that you should do well enough, while still fighting alongside your favorite neglected pet family.
Filed under: Hunter, Analysis / Opinion, PvP, Guides, Arena, (Hunter) Scattered Shots






Reader Comments (Page 1 of 3)
Anaughtybear May 8th 2008 9:23PM
High dps pets are a bit over-rated. They are nice for PvP, but for PvE, all you really need is a tough meat shield to take hits while you dps. Cats, ravagers and raptors simply aren't as durable as some of the pets families. That means you will be spending more mana on Mend Pet. I prefer boars because of the speed that Charge gives. It also helps make up for any lost benefits you might get from another pet in PvP due to the ability to intercept and immobilize your target quickly. That and I am really tired of seeing every single hunter with the same cat on my server.
Ametrine May 8th 2008 9:29PM
I've heard of people who have successfully used even weaker pets like Spiders and Hyenas as offtanks, by way of stacking armor and stamina high enough. So having a Cat or Raptor cover your back should be no problem
Manatank May 9th 2008 2:07PM
I assume by PvE you mean soloing, because in any real PvE your pet shouldn't be tanking anything. It is just there to do damage for you. Hence the heavy preference towards the three real pets: ravager, raptor and cat.
I go with ravagers, because I prefer their looks, and I just think gore > claw.
huntard4ever May 19th 2008 1:24AM
tanking pets are only good if ur going to grind or if ur lvling if ur in a raid ur pet is supposed to dps
uncaringbear May 8th 2008 9:34PM
I recently tamed and leveled a bat from Kara, and I'm learning to like it. It has nice dps and its screech ability helps to hold aggro like a champ. Where I think it really shines, is in BGs. There are few things more annoying than a bat with giant wings flapping right in your face. Makes targeting opponents that much more trickier, and the constant screeching sound drives you up the wall! The bat is definitely the physically largest flying pet out there, hence its excellent distraction factor.
Rob May 8th 2008 9:34PM
The author makes two mistakes.
1) They postulate that hunter mana drain is important in PVE. Not true. Mobs have much more mana than we can drain from viper sting.
2) They don't separate PvE into solo and group/raid. Solo play demands a pet that can tank well. Boars are great for this (even with the nerf), they have higher armor than normal, plus charge. Bats are also good, they have screech and dive (and good dps to boot).
For groups, boars/bats are still useful for off-tanking. However as you get higher level, this will not be as useful since the mobs can kill your pet in 1-2 hits.
In raid situations, owls are useful for the debuff provided by screech, while the dps pets boost the hunter's dps. I am not sure how much of a debuff is provided by screech and whether it is more beneficial than the dps buff provided by 'dps' pets. Wolfs also have a raid debuff like screech (howl) but the max rank howl is available pre-TBC, thus its utility likely isn't that useful in raids.
Daniel Whitcomb May 8th 2008 9:54PM
Hello, Rob!
To answer your comments:
1) While I know that most NPCs have large mana pools that make Viper Sting rather ineffective, there have been certain fights where Viper Sting is effective, on mobs with deliberately small mana pools, or bosses such as Moam in AQ20. It's certainly very situational as a tool in PvE, but it is worth mentioning.
2) I do understand that it is sometimes helps to choose a pet for tanking purposes rather than pure DPS, but my intent in this article was primarily to explain why these three specific pet families are so popular among hunters. I actually use a Boar and a Carrion Bird on my two high level hunters specifically because I like that balance of tank ability and DPS, and said so to some small extent in my last section.
I might have been a bit clearer that I wasn't recommending certain pet families as much as explaining why they were so omnipresent, though, so I do apologize if I came across as a pet Nazi. I am very much a fan of choosing a pet for your own personal reasons, and not just because it does Max DPS.
gundamxzero May 9th 2008 12:28PM
Lol while I did love AQ 20 back in the day thats hardly relevant anymore, viper sting has its moments with maybe a few trash pulls but not on anymore bosses.
Zedlav May 8th 2008 9:36PM
I'm level 67 and I've had a pet crab since I could tame. It may be inferior in PvP, but it doesn't mean I haven't won my share of fights. I killed a 64 warlock (and his felguard) at level 63 one time in Zangarmarsh. I enjoy my victories much more with my crab than if I had the "standard" PvP pet.
jrb May 9th 2008 2:08PM
it's always nice seeing a hunter doing well with a non-"standard" pet. so, props to you if the crab's working out for you. :)
Baluki May 8th 2008 9:58PM
Don't forget that we shamans can also cure poisons. In fact, we have TWO poison-removal spells: Cure Poison and Poison Cleansing Totem.
Oh, and Viper Sting is zee deveel.
Daniel Whitcomb May 8th 2008 10:42PM
Ah, you're right, of course, Baluki! I cannot believe I forgot to mention Shamans.
Angus May 9th 2008 8:40AM
No one remembers Shaman...
As it stands you just put poison cleansing totem in your totem killing macro and enjoy watching the shaman try to do something. If it is an enhance shaman, the poisons are more about doing damage while you kite.
Cat May 8th 2008 10:33PM
One massively overlooked pet class that's (thankfully) coming into its own on my server is the owl/bird. They have Dive - which is the same as Dash - and an excellent focus dump and generally-irritating-three-person-radius-plus-aggro-generator-liek-whoa debuff in Screech. Sure, you have to do some finagaling, but if you're a min-maxer, you'd be getting a cat or a scorpid anyway.
Cetha May 8th 2008 10:55PM
my lvl 54 (at the time) hunter picked up an owl in winterspring about a week and a half ago, and I love love love love love love love love love love love him. And he looks cool, always an excellent reason for a pet choice :)
Sean Riley May 8th 2008 10:56PM
I can only note that as a warrior, boars are, hands down, the most annoying pet I have ever faced in battlegrounds. Warriors rely on using charge to clear the distance between themselves and the hunter, shutting down their ranged DPS, then hamstringing them to stop them easily getting away. A charging boar can block you from this, and it can destroy you.
Naturally, once you get intercept, you can play around this, but even then, boars can give hunters a crucial starting edge over a warrior.
Manatank May 9th 2008 2:19PM
Lol, warriors can't take down hunters. Why would you even try. If you see a hunter you're only hope is to out number them or to run away.
Jack May 8th 2008 11:12PM
Aren't raptors exactly the same as cat apart from the looks and lack of prowl (which isn't all that useful in PvE)? Why wasn't my favourite kind of pet mentioned? :(
wyrd May 9th 2008 11:36AM
ummm try reading again.
"Ravagers, Cats, and *Raptors* for PvE"
i know its hard to actualy read the first paragraph before complaining, but give it a try some time.
Spiegel May 8th 2008 11:17PM
Actually; things have been fixed for the poor scorpion as of late =(
Cleanses and poison removals will pull off our viper stings before pulling off the scorpid poison ticks. Scorpid's certainly still have a place in pvp, but that trick is no longer valid.