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5-09-2008 @ 7:32AM
Blizz really knows what they're doing! They keep making things better and better without breaking the game, and so many more people will be able to do all the end game content with EVERY raid being 10 or 25 man.!!! Warning long post (for short version see #8's post)Ella, Warcloud and Kumar - (and other people who think 10/25 Raids is a mistake) The 25 man raids will have the better loot tables and more difficult bosses therefore making them "epic". Hopefully epic enough for you and your uber super awesome elite guild that deserves to see end game content more than I, and rest of the people who play the game do.From the article, "Kaplan was very keen to stress that the 25 man setup would still be the most elite, rewarding experience out there."Think about this please: No one is forcing you to do the 10 man versions of these raids, you don't have to fight a "nerfed" Arthas, just do the 25 man version. You never have to even see him in his "weakened state" blizz made for us gamers that aren't worthy enough to play game.From the article, "The 10 and 25-man progressions will not depend on each other"I understand that you don't want to run the 10 man and the 25 man raid over and over again (you should try understanding that the people who keep the game alive financially and keep it growing deserve to see the end game content), but nowhere in this article has blizz said anything about guilds having to gear up on the 10 man version in order to do the 25 man. Honestly what makes a raid epic? (I always thought it had something to do with the important [lore/story wise] bosses, thoroughly/creative/innovative dungeons and purple loot). Remember the Epic level 60 hunter quest? Only took one person, yet it's considered an epic quest w/ epic loot. If 40 man raids were epic before tbc, doesn't that make BT less than epic? Haha you've been fighting a nerfed version of illidan this whole time! He should be a 40 man raid. Arthas (in all his greatness) should be a 100 man raid! Personally I think blizz is screwing you over and giving you guys the easy route only needing 25 peeps to raid. /sarcasm over.You say blizz hasn't been generous enough to make more raids in between BT and Sunwell, well did you ever come to think that a very large portion of people who raid have yet to do BT yet, let alone Sunwell? So why should blizz slap together more 25 mans just because you and your guildies are lacking in the RL department? I hear there's many mmo's with a much higher difficulty scale than wow. Maybe you should close your accounts and find a game that's epic enough for yoU!It's a game for everyone to play, not just you! Sorry for the extra long post, the elitist attitude some people have has really been pushing my buttons lately.
5-09-2008 @ 12:29PM
Skiftor, who are you kidding? People like you could care less about seeing "endgame content", you're just after the same loot the more hardcore raiders get for a lot less effort.It's people like you who expect to be run through content and down Arthas on the day you turn 80 and get auto'd the loot because everyone you are running with already learned the fight for you.I consider myself "casual" as I don't raid 25-mans all week long (just a couple times per week like most guilds). For those of you who are saying that just because a guild runs 25-mans it's "not fun" or "too serious" I'd like to point out that this is completely untrue. I run 25-mans and I have just as much fun as when I run 10-man raids. As long as you know your role and carry your own, 25-man raiding guilds are fun (and yes, casual). A 25-man group can be far more difficult to play in because you have to learn group coordination and complex boss fights. Saying it's easier than a 10-man raid just proves the point that you are, in fact, a skill-less noob.
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