I agree with the article that it's not good having the GL be the RL ... they *are* different roles with different mindsets, and you would be hard pressed to find somebody that does both very well.

The real issue is the characteristics that make a good Raid Leader are generally in direct opposition to the characteristics of "casual guilds". (And by casual, I mean casual in mindset, not the number of days in a week you raid).

Raid Leaders are generally people that are motivated to beat the game, and are good at figuring out what is wrong, and what needs to happen to fix it. That doesn't always sit well with *casual* members.

I remember trying to be an RL for a "RP Guild" that wanted to raid, but still be casual. Just me posting that we were going to try to form a "core" group of the more serious members to help carry the not-so-serious members caused a couple of not-so-serious officers to take a break from the game. I ended up leaving shortly after that.

Why? because it's one thing to progress slowly cause people are trying their best ... it's another to progress slowly cause people don't care about progression. If your hired on to help the guild see new content, you better be willing to support the Raid Leader.

Basically, people have to come to terms with reality. WoW is a game of numbers. If you want to down Boss X, you need to have A, B and C. The Raid Leaders job is to define what A, B and C are ... and it's the guilds job to bring A, B and C to the plate.

When A, B and C are *reasonable* yet are NOT provided, then the Raid Leaders get burnt out real fast. Raid Leaders are Driven to beat obstacles ... but when the obstacle is *really* the guild members, the only way to beat that is to change guilds.

Some guilds are just not going to ever see much, if any, new content because they are not willing to have a "serious" mindset. Which is fine ... accept who you are and enjoy the game in the limited scope that YOU defined.

But if your guild is lackadaisical in it's mindset, then for the love of God, don't bring on a Raid Leader and tell them you want to progress. Your just wasting the life of the Raid Leader by falsely leading them on.

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