[1.Local]: The week from a reader's point of view
[1.Local] serves up a smattering of reader comments from the past week, from the sublime to the ridiculous.The excitement of the all the new Wrath of the Lich King buzz this week must have gone to some readers' heads, making them testier than usual. This week saw several squabbles in post comments, from mild differences of opinion to outright controversial debate. News about the shape of raid instances to come brought out plenty of opinions both for and against the new raid sizes. Should Arthas be 10-mannable? With even well known raiding guilds such as Death and Taxes burning out and moving on, are raiding applications still necessary in this day and age?
The comments got hot and heavy in a post that sparked plenty of discussion about racism in Arena team names. Readers also seemed of two minds at the efforts of top-tanked 5v5 Arena team M L H, who've turned out to be prolific points-sellers. But commenters pulled together in a post advising one reader whose system seems to have slowed to a crawl. And reader Kershner wrapped it all up on a chilled note for the weekend with a great macro to help us kick back and enjoy some fishing.
Be sure to dive into the comments area of each thread (not this one, silly!) and add your own thoughts – unlike your mama, we like us some hot, fresh backtalk.
| 25-man and 10-man raiding battle it out This look at the compatibility of both 25-man and 10-man raids in Wrath of the Lich King, along with a companion post casting a little more doubt on the new design, sparked plenty of conjecture. "I'm very excited for this as a member of a 10-man guild that just downed Zul'jin for the first time last night after 1.5 months in ZA," said reader Prance. "For those of you who haven't done ZA (with a 10-man progression group, no 25-man loot, etc), it's a good challenge with a progression feel to it. This is what the casual raider group is missing. Whether they want to make it against arthas or whoever, just as long as there is more ZA and beyond type raids, I think they'll be hitting on a good note. "For those 25 raiders who are worried about their raids in WotLK, I don't think you have too much to worry about. You raid 25s to progress to be one of the best on the server? That's still there. Your rewards in loot will be better, and I think they should continue with the titles and maybe other things like tabards, mounts, etc., to show the accomplishment of 25-man raids. 25s will be harder than 10s, so make sure that everyone is aware of that, but don't take the content away from the 10s either. "Give everyone a sense of accomplishment of killing lore figures, but make sure those who did it on the tougher scale are recognized, and I think this will work out fine." |
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| Should Arthas be 10-mannable? Lore nerds, unite – this is your thread. Should 10 players be able to kill Arthas in the Wrath of the Lich King? "Who's to say that we won't be 10 people with the support of Tirion, numerous nameless NPC's, and a few other Lore characters such as Sylvannas?" asks Saf. "Simply by altering the number of NPC's in relation to 10/25 players, the difficulty could be adjusted without worrying about fight mechanics all that much ... "It's likely not going to be a repeat of Illidan, where Akama holds off the adds or w/e, and Maiev steals the kill. I'm talking more about an all-out assault, pitting our army against the armies of the Scourge. Arthas himself isn't likely to be too much of a challenge. It's the fact that his entire army will swarm the raid in order to protect him ..." |
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| Show your stuff on guild applications Are guild membership applications a useful tool or an outdated demonstration of elitist snobbery? "As a recruiting officer for a raiding guild, I would like to comment that applications are absolutely necessary," opines Sydera. "I don't like turning people down, but my highest level of commitment is to my guild's current members. I want our new applicants to mesh well and keep the guild happy. We use our applications to determine not necessarily who has the best gear or skill but who will work best with our team. Our applications seeks to weed out: "1. Negative attitudes. This comes clear based on how someone describes their guild history. 2. Selfish people. Hence, the 'are you willing to sit on the bench' and 'do you accept our loot policy' questions. 3. Flakes. Hence the 'can you make our raid times' and 'how often will you raid' questions. 4. Racist, sexist, or immature folks. This is why we ask applicants to tell us a joke. The joke question is the most important one on our application -- it's the one that tells us most accurately what someone is like. "I often compare my guild to a pretty good team in an amateur bowling league. We're not the best bowlers out there. We're enthusiastic about it and love our team. We like to play the game, we have a lot of fun, we play about 12 hours a week and there's nachos and beer for everybody. We also plan and organize pretty carefully -- we find that when things run smoothly, everyone is happier and gets, on the whole, more nachos. Now, if one whiny butthead joins the team, we're not having fun anymore, so we're very careful about which new bowlers we take if a spot opens up." |
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| Racism in Arena names More than 300 posters raged on this post about an Arena team (and many knock-offs) with a questionable name that many players considered racist. "Come to think of it, Rosa Parks would fight for the free speech to have such an arena team name," observed Naix. "I may not like what you say, but I will fight to the death for your right to say it." |
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| Top Arena team sells points along the way When 15 Minutes of Fame talked with a top-ranked 5v5 Arena team, we knew they'd be great players – but we didn't anticipate that the team would turn out to be prolific points sellers, as well. "With all due respect, Boom, MLH wasn't selling arena points in protest of a broken system," interjects Juliablushes. "They did capitalize on the state of the system and profited greatly by it. What gets me, and likely many others, is that the 'scrubs' they wish to keep out of high-end arena gear are the same 'scrubs' which have been lining their coffers with gold. If the members of MLH actually felt that 'scrubs' shouldn't be in gear that MLH has earned, why would they sell it to them? No matter which way you slice it, MLH are five very wealthy hypocrites." |
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| When WoW runs slow When a reader called for help with a computer that was bogging down under the weight of time, readers jumped to his assistance, offering post after post of savvy advice. We can't cite just one particular comment from this post – you'll have to visit the thread itself for an overview of all the helpful tips. |
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| Chill out with fishing macros Ok – raid design, points selling and racism aside, it's the weekend. Time to go fishing! "For the great many of us who play with the sound off, my variant on this macro function thus," advises Kershner. "On left-click: 1. Increase volume to max (I can't figure out how to flip sound on and off, but I can turn the volume from 0 to max, thus your sound has to be on, but with the master volume at 0%) 2. Equip fishing rod 3. Begin fishing (requires a second click) "On right-click (I like right-click, use the modifier of your choice): 1. Reduce volume to zero 2. Equip your weapon again "For reasons of versatility, I use the mod ItemRack which provides functions to switch equipment sets by name. Thus all of my characters have a set called "UnFish" which consists of the weapon they'd like to switch back to. Thus all characters can share the same fishing macro." #showtooltip Nat Pagle's Extreme Angler FC-5000 /console Sound_MasterVolume 1 /equip [nobutton:2] Nat Pagle's Extreme Angler FC-5000 /cast [nobutton:2] Fishing /stopmacro [nobutton:2] /console Sound_MasterVolume 0 /script EquipSet("UnFish") |
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Reader Comments (Page 1 of 2)
Umm... May 16th 2008 1:36PM
Why don't you show the comments from the readers getting fed up with the quality of the articles on this website?
Ametrine May 16th 2008 1:57PM
Because you don't matter and nobody cares.
alrdye May 16th 2008 2:01PM
I really don't know what people expect from the articles here. This isn't the elitist jerks forums. If you want that detail of info, go there. I think wowinsider is doing a great job.
Badger May 16th 2008 2:30PM
Oh, Lord ... Dude, if the site is that bad, let your feet do the talking and just WALK AWAY. Seriously, bitching about it doesn't fix things, so if you and so many others are so remarkably displeased, why not take the per-click advertising revenue that keeps this page running to another site?
Umm... May 16th 2008 3:06PM
Well, you may think I don't matter and nobody cares, but one article here got 100 comments in the first day about a writer was using WoW Insider to increase his e-peen. I was refering to that article in my previous comment.
Badger May 16th 2008 3:38PM
Ooooooh. See, you weren't being specific. That might actually be worth discussing to a certain extent. (Many of us tend to just dismiss posts when they look to us like the usual "OMG Y DUZ INSIDAR SUKXOR TODAY" crap.)
To which article were you referring?
Dan May 16th 2008 1:55PM
I'm surprised that the hit piece from Holisky and the resulting furor and huge number of posts about it didn't get a mention.
Awlbiste May 16th 2008 2:24PM
I wouldn't say I'm surprised as such but it is rather amusing.
Badger May 16th 2008 2:28PM
To which piece are you referring, Dan?
Dan May 16th 2008 2:34PM
The "/gquit macro" article with the big picture of the crying baby on the front.
Badger May 16th 2008 2:43PM
Bwahahahahahahahaha.
Dude, Adam's a good writer, when he actually has some material with which to work. In this particular case, though, I looked at his article and thought, "Filler. Duh."
Naix May 16th 2008 2:37PM
Very cool my comment was quoted on "The week from a reader's point of view." Thanks for picking my comment. There were pages and pages of who was right and wrong. This is a very hot topic indeed.
Badger May 16th 2008 2:45PM
I salute you, Sir.
/salute
Your Comment was very well written and straight-to-the-point.
Question: "I may not like what you say, but I will fight to the death for your right to say it." This was originally voiced by a very well-known philosopher/writer, wasn't it? I think it was Voltaire, but it may have been someone more recent ... Do you know?
Roxton May 16th 2008 3:29PM
@Badger:
I think it was Voltaire who said it, but I've also heard it mentioned in connection with Jefferson. Why not play safe, and attribute it to Disraeli?
Naix May 16th 2008 3:35PM
/salute back
The phrase "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it" is widely attributed to Voltaire, but cannot be found in his writings. With good reason. The phrase was invented by a later author as an epitome of his attitude. It appeared in The Friends of Voltaire (1906), written by Evelyn Beatrice Hall under the pseudonym S[tephen] G. Tallentyre. ...
Hall wrote:
...The men who had hated [the book], and had not particularly loved Helvétius, flocked round him now. Voltaire forgave him all injuries, intentional or unintentional. 'What a fuss about an omelette!' he had exclaimed when he heard of the burning. How abominably unjust to persecute a man for such an airy trifle as that! 'I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it,' was his attitude now.
Badger May 16th 2008 3:39PM
O_O
Wow, I was totally not expecting to be schooled in classic literature when I logged on to Insider today.
Thanks Naix (and you too, Roxton)!
Solex May 16th 2008 2:53PM
10 man arthas still worries me, its like homogenizing the experience. I understand they want to make casuals happy and they want to make raiders happy but at what expense? casuals who do arthas once and quit the game or 25 man hardcores who realize that there's no longer any sense of accomplishment and they burn out knowing that a guy who can afford to stay awake for an extra 2 hours a night is doing the same content only easier. I'll be interested to see how blizzard pursues this whole thing.
Swarfy May 16th 2008 4:47PM
The 25 mans will have better loot than the 10-mans. so In a sense it will be worth it to do the 25-mans if you have the people.
I am in a small family guild(If the stars align and everything goes right we can field our own 10-man.) The only reason I've been in 25-mans is because we have an association of sorts with a bigger guild. They make up the majority of the runs, but most of them we've gamed with for over a year and have no issues with us. But for my small guild, the 10-mans will be a welcome addition to the game.
BenMS May 16th 2008 11:24PM
Swarfy hit the nail on the head. My guild can field a really good ten-man team, clearing the animal bosses of ZA in only Kara/heroics gear, but when t comes to stepping up to 25-mans, we've killed Gruul total of once, with an alliance with two other guilds. It's be awesome to be able to head into Gruul with our 10-man A Team and kill him - we don't really care that the loot would be half a tier to a full tier behind.
Eternalpayn May 17th 2008 12:35AM
Wouldn't it be funny if someone was featured in next week's for commenting on this one?