That's no excuse. I go to work and I have school, and still that's no excuse for botting in BGs while leeching off the work of others just to have honor. That's just being lazy and a cheater.

FYI. Life is a time sink, the more time you invest in the right things the better the rewards you get.

By that logic Blizzard should allow everyone to bot, after all if the people who don't have school or jobs don't need to spend all their time playing WoW they would be able to enjoy other activities.

Umm... plenty of people have full time lives and don't resort to cheating. It's not an excuse so much as an admission of being a lazy bastard with an overactive sense of entitlement.

"Oh noes!, I don't have time to farm my welfare epics!" Cry me a goddamned river.

@ Fel

"Unless you guys have never pirated music or any software, you can't really criticize someone for botting, and its their account so let them ruin it if they want."

... intriguing argument. How are you comparing botting, ie. cheating at an online game, to piracy, ie. theft? I'm not arguing both are wrong (I refuse to do either, out of professional sensibility) but I don't think you can claim doing one precludes you from criticizing the other.

I didn't say it was right, i was just trying to explain the logic behind most of it. Their logic is "its unfair that i don't get what x gets, because i can't spend as much time as he can!"

In my mind botting and piracy are pretty close, they are both using the way its distributed (digitally) to twist it so that they recieve profit (music, wow gold / levels) without actually contributing (actually playing the game or playing)

because of the nature of how things are on computers they are all very similar in my mind, its just another form of piracy to me really.

Outrageous. Botting the same as downloading music? Its not even remotely the same thing.

I work 50+ hours a week, spend time with my wife and kids, co host a podcast, work on my blog and still had time to get a new character to 70 post 2.4 patch.

If they made the game any easier they would have to hand you a free character at level 55 or thats right they ARE!

If one is too busy to play the answer is obvious: don't play.

It's like parents that are too busy to spend time with their own children, goes ahead and uses their money to buy them company, toys, cars and the like... only because they can. And then expect that their children love them as much as the children of attentive parents would love.

People who actually play their own toons will ALWAYS have a better playing experience, and those who don't just contributes in ruining it.

Gryph, i totally, 100% agree with you, if you dont have time, you shouldnt be playing. simple as that.

And Fel, those two instances have nothing to do with each other when your just trying to lvl a toon, which is what your explaining, when your using a bot to farm for online gold to make REAL money, then they are similar, but still not the same. by pirating electronic media you are STEALING money directly from the owners of the media by simply not spending the money on it. in the case of botting for real money, you are not stealing directly from Blizzard, but you are gaining money from their copyrighted product without their permission, which is still just as illegal, but not exactly the same.

basically, these situations are not very similar, and by NO means the same.

Fel = Idiot

Thanks Ancalimon.

Addition: the use of bots to level a toon only becomes an excuse if they want to reach the level cap quickly. When I first played, I had a full time job and a (then) non-player wife and it didn't bother me that I went from level 20 to 30 in 2 months. Since my wife became a player, levelling became quicker, but levelling slowly was not an unpleasant experience.

Now I'm levelling a toon from the opposite faction and he's been level 11 for 3 months. But what can one expect if you are busy? And I find it nostalgic that I can actually "experience" the game rather than just go through the rat-race of accumulating XP and gear.

IMHO, people who have no time should be happy with what they have and not be envious of people in epics and raiding Kara.

So you're saying that it's ok to cheat?

BS. Pure and simple. Bot users made the grind more of a grind for the people who played it fair.

I went primal farming last night, and actually got to kill a steady stream of elementals, instead of competing with a few dozen people who I used to suspect of running a bot. Farming a primal in 10 minutes instead of getting frustrated after an hour and being forced to buy one on the AH from a cheating a** is a much more pleasant experience.

Battlegrounds can only be *more* fun when there aren't jerks running a bot gimping your team.

If only we could ban these cheaters from *all* games, instead of just the one they were caught in...