I've never lost an AV on my server as Horde, before or after the patch. Horde can't as easily zerg now, so the tactic has changed to more balanced offense and defense, but even outnumbered and with half the players AFKed in the starting area or graveyards in a particularly close match, we managed to squeak out a win. Having people on defense is a better way to play, and with less reason to make a mad dash for the finish line in the beginning, horde is better organized, and with increased incentive for alliance to play offense they seem to be ignoring defense almost entirely.

The changes have changed the way the game is played, but I wouldn't say that the horde or alliance are worse off now than before...

Not to say Horde is unilaterally better. Horde has certainly lost AV, I simply haven't been in those particular AVs. I have to join a premade to get a full team in EotS, and at times Horde can't win an AB or WSG to save their lives. There are times of day when horde in my battlegroup is disastrously unorganized, unreasonably aggressive, and under-represented in general, so I generally avoid BGs during that time. It isn't my intent to insult the Alliance in my Battlegroup, most of them can pretty easily kill my pathetic little rogue.

I think half the problem is horde never has defence in the first place. Countless times playing on my horde priest pre-2.4, alliance can just rush straight to the relief hut and capture it with 0 resistance. Doesn't take a genius to work out that shouldn't happen so early on in the game. It would take at most, 3 horde to stop that from happening and yet no one bothers.

Now flip the coin over, i've never ever seen horde capture the alliances aid station that early in a game. Horde have to fight pretty hard to just get the SP GY because in most cases, alliance actually defend it. Not all the time but there are some games were they make it hard.

I'm really confused. What on earth is Zach Yonzon talking about in saying the forums have been quiet about 2.4 AV? AV is complained about every week, every day. The Alliance can rush to the Relief Hut and solo cap it before the Horde has even reached Stormpike Graveyard. Horde has to manage defense to have a winning chance, while the Alliance doesn't defend anything and rushes with a 40-man zerg.