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6-04-2008 @ 1:21PM
I had to read what you said 3 times before I believed it.Are you seriously speculating that WLK is going to be released in 13 weeks?Really? Do you also think the tooth fairy and santa claus are real? Does the Easter Bunny talk to you in your sleep?I hope you are right about this, but come on.
6-04-2008 @ 1:23PM
While I'd put it a little less bluntly, I agree. Wrath isn't even in beta yet. Even if they've sped up development significantly, I can't imagine it coming out before December.
6-04-2008 @ 3:00PM
BC Alpha started around August 23rd, 2006. Original release date was November 28th 2006 and Final release was January 16th 2007. Now remember they had Thanksgiving and Christmas in there...2 big holidays and lots of people out and most believe the push back was just due to too many resources being out for the holidays.So...Since Alpha started for WotLK in early May, you are looking at a 3-4 month window here...putting WotLK most likely at August or September/October at the latest of the 4/5th month window.Also Blizzcon is in Mid October and a big announcement is coming. We all know that WotLK was at the last one and SC2 has been announced so that means a new game is on the way and we all know what it is. You also have most of the Blizzard staff at Blizzcon and there is no way they are going there with WotLK still expecting to be launched. It will be finished by then so they can move forward with the con.Now....there are hundreds of speculation threads on the WoW forums. Guess who's was removed immediately after posting this?? When you use fact and common sense, you can sorta figure out when the XPac is coming. Kinda the reason it got deleted yet tons are still up.Sept/Oct it is. Mark it down.
6-04-2008 @ 3:08PM
Since people are quoting the past to determine a future release date, and then saying it is common sense, I suppose a little real common sense is in order:Has it occurred to you that WLK is significantly larger in size and scope than TBC (in terms of sheer number of new items)?You can quote numbers all you want, but I will believe WLk is here when I am logging into Northrend on a live realm. Everything you say about release date is fantastical speculation and nothing more.
6-04-2008 @ 6:00PM
Can you provide a solid argument as to why not, without going through the logic yourself and saying "well okay yeah I guess it could be Septemberish"?I don't think you can, unless you're just making up things based on absolutely nothing at all. BC's release schedule fits the time line... and lets be honest, 4 new starting zones and 2 new races doesn't compare very well in terms of complexity to one new starting zone for Death Knights and Death Knights, but I think it's safe to say it'll be easier to test DK's than it was to run so many people through 70 full levels of the game, which they had to do for BC. I mean honestly, what markers are you paying attention to if you seriously have such a pessimistic view? Based on the speed of the last release, I'd say that they're even farther along in terms of testing and development than we were at the same pre-launch point on the calendar. Plus, they had to deal with holidays, and there are none of those during the summer... so even shaving a couple of weeks off development time would be reasonable as well. (unless they cancelled everyone's thanksgiving and xmas, I dunno).
6-04-2008 @ 10:55PM
Other than my own general pessimism, I base my incredulity regarding a September release date on the fact that WLK has approximately 3x the number of new items as TBC.Also, little tidbits I see on the internet like this:http://www.amazon.com/World-Warcraft-Wrath-Lich-Expansion/dp/B000VJTJNEMaybe this is a typo, maybe not, but I find the date compelling, since it is close to what I think is the likely date of release.I must point out that I think those of us who think Sept/Oct is reasonable are just doing so because we are impatient and want it to be released.
6-05-2008 @ 10:51AM
Itemization is one of last aspects of development that could cause a delay in the expansion. The foundation for asset management has long been established, not to mention the extremely large established base of reusable assets already in game.You can't justify an extended development cycle just because "Wrath has more items". WOW's foundation has made Wrath capable of having so many new items introduced.But with that said, it's more important to consider the marketing calendar. November is a Christmas holiday release, an extremely ideal release date, while Sept./Oct. is a good time for "back to school" marketing, but a bad time for entertainment marketing.Going from kodo mount to Wrath release is a very broad, ambitious and ultimately way overly optimistic leap of faith. There's no correlation between the two whatsoever.You'll hear it officially at Blizzcon that we'll see Wrath in November. The only correlation between BC and Wrath is that they're more inclined to be on schedule, rather than delayed beyond it.
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