Do botters really matter?
Blizzard has had the big botting ban now in place for a couple of weeks, and there are a few people I've noticed who are not online. Additionally I've noticed a change in the auction house price. There are some items like low level enchanting mats that are going for tons more, and others such as high level crafting mats which are going for much less. This is outside of the normal market fluctuations on my server, and many people attribute to the removal of botters.This could be a fallacy of causation – the removal of botters might not have lead to the shakeup at the auction house. There really is no way to prove it, other than the circumstantial evidence of price fluctuations timed with the removal of often-botted items. And in the end, these price fluctuations end up being a wash anyways – the extra that is spent on the lower level items is more than likely offset by the cheaper higher level items.
Between the recent wave of bannings and the seemingly nominal impact the ban has had on the overall economy, this begs the questions – do botters really matter? And should Blizzard just ignore them?
While it might seem like the answer is a firm no, let's take a look at some of the underlying reasons and assumptions that people bot and why it's considered bad. In particular we'll look at reasons surrounding leveling, playing the economy, and engaging in PvP.
Leveling
One of the main reasons people bot is to level their character up to a certain level quickly, skipping over content they've already done. This is against the rules according to Blizzard's terms of service, there's no question about that, but morally and pragmatically speaking for some individuals, it's not outside the bounds of acceptable behavior. People's reasoning is that if they've already done the content – why should they be forced to repeat it? This is a valid criticism of the game, no matter if you support botting or not. And within that valid criticism people have came up with a solution – botting.
A primary negative effect that is often cited as a reason to not allow characters to level via bots is that it devalues the meaning of a max level character. While this might be true when looking at the system with quantitative measurements (ie: everyone has a 70 of every class), it is not true on the qualitative side. A person that has leveled his or her character to 70 by hand will have a much better grasp on the fundamentals of the class than a person who had botted his or her way to 70. This is a key point: the botter is going to have problems playing the game at 70, while the non-botter will naturally transition into the end game. Eventually few people will want to play with the botted character, and thus by natural laissez-faire principles, the botters will have less incentive to bot over leveling a character the normal way – thus correcting the problem itself. If anything, the botter is only cheating himself out of the leveling experience, not affecting the rest of the WoW community.
Economy
Another key reason people bot is because of the economic value to them. If they can set their bot up correctly they can bring in hundreds of gold an hour – all automated. This frees the botter up to do other things in life. Positives of this include the ability to collect the large necessary quantities of materials often required of high end profession leveling, and the ease of making money off of other items collected.
An often quoted negative of botting for economic reasons is the impact on the in-game economy. While it is true that botters have a tendency to create "wacky" situations in the economy – it is also true that a non-botter can. For instance, say a botter uses his botting-enhanced farming to pick up hundreds of high level enchanting mats. He then goes on to sell them all on the auction house. Because his artificially created supply outweighs the demand by so much, the price of the materials plummets. This is not a good situation for those trying to make money, but at the same time it is a good situation for those needing the materials.
At the same time a non-botter can cause just as much economic turmoil in the economy. Take something that I've been doing lately. I have a product I'm selling on the AH, we'll just call it Super Widgets for the sake of discussion. These Super Widgets have a normal economic value of 1000g. However there is limited demand for these Super Widgets, and I have (by normal non-botting means) obtained a large supply of the Super Widgets. I want to create a natural looking economic situation where the price for Super Widgets goes up. What can I do? I set several Super Widgets high above normal market value – say 4000g. I leave these up at that price indefinitely. On another alt, I sell a few more Super Widgets for 2000g, and then a couple on another alt at 1500g. Each price level is done on a different alt, so it appears as if there is a price war going on for my Super Widgets amongst many people. Unsuspecting individuals will see the Super Widgets for 1500g, buy them, and enjoy them with the false knowledge that they've beaten a high end price by 2500g. However they've actually played into my hands by 500g, giving me some nice profit on an item I have large quantities of. In addition to creating artificial pricing situations, I have more or less created an artificial demand for these Super Widgets. Nothing is more destructive to an economy than artificially created supply and demand situations. To sum up my point and be very clear: a player can have just as destructive a force via normal (and legitimate) means as a botter can have via abnormal (and illegitimate) means.
PvP
Perhaps the most hotly contested of the reasons people bot is because of the PvP system. It is possible for bots to earn honor and rewards via gear and other such token turn ins faster than a non botter. A typical (smart) botter might go smack a few players around in a battleground, and then leave the rest of the game up to the bot. This will have the effect of giving him the rest of the honor and token from the game with only a fraction of the work of others. More so, this action is repeatable easily throughout an entire day with barely any effort on the part of the botter.
Obviously, this can throw off PvP gear balance if done on a massive scale. However, does it really? These botters will still suffer from the lack of PvP skills as they haven't worked on their abilities through countless battles. While they may have more gear than some people, their PvP skills will be lacking and cannot be made up for. Again, it appears the botter is "cheating" only himself out of his skill, and not the rest of the greater WoW community.
Conclusion
In conclusion, it is rather clear to me that while botting in WoW is against the terms of service (and I highly advise everyone not the break them), it is not against the greater WoW community's good. Botting just doesn't have any adverse effect on a large number of people, and any effect it does have isn't any more than can be done by a person playing the market or battlegrounds in a particular way.
While it is definitely within Blizzard's right to remove the botters because of the terms of service, one has to wonder if this is the best action. In my opinion, it is not. Let them play the game the way they want, and I'll play it the way I want. Since they don't affect me anymore then any other person in the game does/can I don't really care; and that answers my original question. Do botters really matter? No more than we let them.
For those wondering, the picture for this article is of D'Anna from Battlestar Galactica. While she looks human, underneath her skin she is nothing more than a conflicted (ro)bot.
Filed under: Analysis / Opinion, Economy, PvP, Features, Leveling
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Reader Comments (Page 5 of 7)
Lhock Jun 9th 2008 2:53PM
Its funny to see that when someone mentions PVP botting, everyone only thinks of the idiot afk'ers. My priest buffed you, changed spots based on the tide of the battleground, and healed the heck out of you, all while still fighting too. I can't tell you how many times I see whispers saying "Thanks" or "Nice heals". Having botted a lot, I recognize a lot of bots that are actually playing right along side the normal players, and you don't even realize it.
Rochmoninoff Jun 9th 2008 2:54PM
The author is humorously amoral.
Botting is just another victimless crime!
Like drug use or prostitution, what's the big deal?
A number of reponders have already hit the nail on the head: it's unethical. You're cheating. Duh! And you only feel comfortable doing it because the internet is anonymous. It would be different if your real name and phone number appeared above your head as your bot was running around, wouldn't it?
PS: my personal beef with botters/afkers in BGs is that they have the nerve to trash talk my side for trying to win! Anything that looks like a spirited fight is immediately labled "turtle". I PVP for the joy of fighting human opponents and the thrill of a hard-won victory. Total wipeouts are hollow. And losses where it's obvious (based on lack of damage/healing) that a significant portion of my side wasn't even trying really burns my butt.
Pzychotix Jun 9th 2008 6:18PM
Why is botting considered cheating? Because Blizzard says so? That's really not valid. Authorities are never always right, and using them as your base is a logical fallacy.
Even so, what if botting is cheating? All it's doing is compensating for a flawed system. Should I have to spend a month sitting at my console, staring at it, before I can start playing? Contrary to popular belief, leveling yet another alt to 70 is not fun nor interesting. Spending several hours in an instance I've done a million times before is not fun. Spending hundreds of hours getting gibbed in BGs is not fun.
Games should encourage fun, not tedious piss grinding.
bloodlight Jun 9th 2008 2:55PM
Adam,
I have defended many of you article to my friends who also play wow, But this id over the top for any one. Cheaters and liars are the lowest scum of any society. I would rather sleep in with an honest murderer that lier and cheat. With murderer i know were I stand. Botting hurt everyone contrary o your warped half thought out reasoning above. This pretty much ends my reading anything written by you and if i knew you in real life would get you an immediate ban from my life. Botting = cheating and lying = ultimate scum.
isobelle Jun 11th 2008 8:21PM
srsly? cry more?
Rochmoninoff Jun 9th 2008 3:07PM
@Lhok,
I don't know what bot program you use, but if more used it, I wouldn't be so PO'd at AV botters.
The ones I see wander randomly. Do a periodic self-heal. And go hide in empty valleys.
They don't do anything except sponge honor. They don't contribute to the common weal.
So please, by all means, share a link to your great automatic-BG machine so that the rest of the botters will use it.
I doubt such a thing exists. What would be the reason to code it? Too much effort, to much risk for the coders. And no more benefit to the user than a program that makes you jump every 15 seconds.
saul Jun 9th 2008 3:06PM
I never botted, I've had many o' nodes swiped by botters and I still don't see the big deal. All you need is to draw some attention to the bot and let the opposing faction have some free honor kills for a lil while.
I personally hope that in the expansion creating alts will be a much easier proccess so that there is little need for "legitimate" botting. For those that say bot levelling defeats the purpose of the game I say not at all. The game barely begins before the level cap. So much more to do after 70 and if you have friends who, lord forbid, have been playing longer than you what are you to do? This game pulls in many casual players and they want to play with thier friends and will find a way to do it, bots or not. Be it friends starting an alt or both leaving the game to start characters in a different game. It is in blizzard's interest to make as much flexibility as the elitists will put up with. with regards to levelling toons.
Mostly I just don't like "subscription NPC's" running around stealing my mats. Seems heartless. And whenever I can, they die. At least I get loot off the Blizz programmed mobs.
Danath Jun 12th 2008 4:44AM
Theres an easy solution to low level mat problems being ridiculously expensive, due to old content being outdated and new people not farming, they could just put vendors that SELL the material at a high, but reasonable price for a new player whos leveling his way through that portion of the game to pick up, and if hes gathering materials and he ends up that 1 skillpoint short you dont send him out hunting for half an hour for it.
There, you have just removed the incentive to sell mageweave and copper ore for 4g a stack. This creates a check system, so people cant just price things anything they want, because if you go too high, people can simply go to the vendor, and im ONLY mentioning the vendor as a lower level option (1-60) come WOTLK, as is, low level ores and cloth are painfully expensive to buy.
Also your comments on "pvp skills" is laughable, WoW is largely not a skill game, its a gear game, if he manages to bot his way to full epics he will be tough and annoying, even if hes retarded, and yes it does unbalance the game and offends people who worked legitimately for their gear.
Haez Jun 9th 2008 3:39PM
I lost a little respect for this site today.. Botting is not morally right. If i am going to level my character to 70 and abide by the ToS, I expect others to do the same.
Nati Jun 9th 2008 3:43PM
Ahh, another "let's write stupid nonsense to get a reaction out of people so I will get lots of comments to my article" writeup by Adam Holisky.
Kyudo Jun 9th 2008 4:21PM
You said it better than me. :P
Thank you.
bizzat92 Jun 9th 2008 3:44PM
something on the point of low level enchanting materials. i got the bright idea to drop enchanting off my hunter and pl it on my 40ish mage. normally not a problem. run vc a couple of times. get a crap load of greens, then work my way up the dungeon list getting greens. i cleared vc, 5 greens total. 2 wings of sm 3 greens. reran vc 4 more times. 5 or less each time. i think they did something to the drop rate in there for level 70's.
Kyudo Jun 9th 2008 4:20PM
Yes, GOD D*** IT!
They're not people, they're not playing, they cannot interact! This game is meant to be a large, social, world.
Remove the bots.
Period.
Why is this even questioned?!
Tcgjarhead Jun 9th 2008 4:26PM
Its funny how pathetic you are adam. Trying to argue that botting is ok? You're bringing this site down. Please gtfo --------------->>>>>>>
PeeWee Jun 9th 2008 8:41PM
Anyone else get the feeling Adam is a botter too and is trying to justify it?
Haiko Jun 9th 2008 5:34PM
Read through the post and it started ok. Then i saw you were leaning towards giving botting an 'ok', read on and got steamed up when you said that lvling with a bot was not morally a bad thing and that the player only was cutting his own throat... Things got iffy from there and when i read on i quickly got from steamed up to downright angry when i read on at conclusions that "Botting just doesn't have any adverse effect on a large number of people, and any effect it does have isn't any more than can be done by a person playing the market or battlegrounds in a particular way".
I couldn't quest in STV when i was young with all the bots farming my quyest-mobs at the time. I couldn't buy stuff i wanted because bot farmers and goldsellers kept inflation up and as a first time char gold isn't easy to get by. And... I see it as a downright insult when people are botting a BG while i spill blood, sweat and tears in there for the same tokens and NO, THE BOTTER ISN'T ONLY CHEATING HIMSELF !!! He's cheating me !!! And see what you made me do, you made me shout :'(
Haiko Jun 9th 2008 5:42PM
btw... i don't reply a lot to all WOW-insider blogs... Read them like crazy though. Somehow i mostly reply to blogs i get agitated about (don't think i have enough wisdom in me to contribute knowledgelebly to nice and positieve posts) and somehow 9 out of 10 blogs i reply to are written by Adam Holisky.... Are you blogging just for your own epeen? Out for a brawl against the community? Just because you couldn't keep your private blogsite up and running?
Hope you don't get paid too much... (with too much meaning "nothing")
Gryphon Hall Jun 9th 2008 7:26PM
I feel the same as Haiko.
How would you feel if somebody got paid for an article chosen over one you've written that was actually ghostwritten by a student from Beijing who plays WoW as his job? Argue that he's only cheating himself (that he's not really learning how to write and that his game knowledge wasn't earned). In the meantime, your article wasn't chosen and you aren't being paid.
That's what a lowbie feels when he can't make money in an AH dominated by botted merchandise.
Tychon Jun 9th 2008 5:42PM
heaven forbid this site actually opens a topic for discussion. Pretty much thought thats what this site was about.
Do some of you actually think that botters care what you think?
Eternalpayn Jun 9th 2008 5:49PM
You said that people can screw up the economy legitimately, too... But your example was a load of garbage, that's cheating just as much as botting, in my opinion. A more legitimate example would be somebody buying all of the Super Widgets, and then selling them for twice as much.
Great article, though.