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by Natalie Mootz 
Jun 11th 2008 at 9:00AM
Forte Gaming, one of the top guilds in World of Warcraft and the world's first to kill Anetheron, disbanded over the weekend. Their web page cites recruitment woes, long delays between content releases, and continually postponed raid times as reasons for the fall. "For many it has felt like a slowly sinking ship for some time and now it's over," says the guild's last post.Forte was consistently ranked in the top two or three guilds in worldwide rankings and stayed in a tight race with Nihilum for game firsts, snagging no less than nine legendary Warglaives from Illidan in the Black Temple. In their three-year reign, they changed realms three times. Although the raiding arm of the guild (EU Boulderfist-A) will no longer exist, they will still maintain a more casual form of the guild on their previous server (A-Kazzak-EU).
Filed under: Guilds, News items, Raiding
Reader Comments (Page 1 of 2)
Ose Jun 11th 2008 2:40PM
And how does this relate to Alamo?
xseno Jun 11th 2008 9:11AM
Old news are so exciting
ninjasuperspy Jun 11th 2008 9:23AM
Oh look, a guild eats all their cake as quickly as possible then complains that there is no more cake to be had. There is more to this game than farming Warglaives 6 nights a week or downing a raid boss before anybody else. If you aren't having fun just make an alt or for the love of god just go walk your dog.
Take a Wrath break. I think Blizz learned a lot from BC. It seems that they are using the model of 2.4 to heart and throttling content so people can't bolt it all at once then sit around. So take six months (or so) beat all the optional content in Disgaea 2, then come back to WoW rested and ready to hang out with your friends on vent. Lose the drama though, nobody likes that.
garreth Jun 11th 2008 12:15PM
Ninja, I really liked what you wrote here:
"Oh look, a guild eats all their cake as quickly as possible then complains that there is no more cake to be had. There is more to this game than farming Warglaives 6 nights a week or downing a raid boss before anybody else. If you aren't having fun just make an alt or for the love of god just go walk your dog."
As the leader of a relatively small-time guild (only 1/6 of Sunwell), we can already see people losing sight and starting to do what Forte did. We call them "going supernova": they get so focused on progression and being "hardcore" that they just explode and die out. We've had more than a couple infamous (to us) server transfers who came over to raid with us only as their swan song before wow-quitting, deleting all their gear, selling their accounts, etc.
The idea that a guild would fold because they had to call a few nights because of attendance is really petty to me. I just want to shake them and say "Hey, welcome to how it is for the rest of us." When you raid with real people, if you're not willing to accept that they have real people duties (work, babies, "brb kitchen on fire", etc) every now and then, you're only setting yourself up for a letdown. There is a lot of cake in WoW, but sometimes you have to work a little harder for it.
(Insert Portal cake references here)
Ryan Jun 11th 2008 12:16PM
It only takes one night a week to farm warglaives.
William Jun 11th 2008 9:27AM
/agreed. Nobody likes Drama.
Jeni Jun 11th 2008 9:36AM
I'm glad that hardcore guilds like this are disbanding. Most of the top euro guilds get stipends to play...and no matter how much Blizzard wants to make WoW and eSport or whatever, I find it ridiculous and insulting to turn this game into something for hardcore players. Every time another top raiding guild goes under, I can't help but cheer.
So you rushed to the end of the game in a few weeks and now you're bored? Poor things. I feel SO bad for you.
I'm glad that Wrath will be giving casual raiding a boost with it's ten man dungeons. Progression is fun, don't get me wrong, but I hate it that less than 5% of all people that play this game will ever experience Illidan or Kil'jaedan. So you guys saw the end. Didn't care about the lore, the excitement of saving Azeroth.... You just came, conquered, and got bored.
/pat
I don't think more than a handful of people will miss you.
Juros Jun 11th 2008 10:25AM
This comment is absolutely ridiculous.
Have you taken no note of how many changes Blizzard has made for the casual player? How can you even insinuate that Blizzard wants to make WoW a hardcore game only with everything that has happened in the last two years.
Epics are easier to get, raids are easier to do, pvp is easier to gear for. Everything about an easy game absolutely got that much easier.
I'm a casual. I've never been in a hardcore raiding guild, and I probably never will be. You are choosing to ignore everything that Blizzard has done to help casuals get into the game and stay there. You are choosing to be ignorant.
Take your obvious jealousy of the hardcore players and try to turn those feelings into something productive rather than wishing ill upon those who happen to play a different style than you do. You might enjoy the game a little more without constantly thinking about how much you hate those EU raiding guilds and their bleeding-edge progression.
Sonmerlong Jun 12th 2008 9:19AM
I find this is be an extremly small minded sort of comment.
I wonder if it would bother you if someone, seeing your dog get run over, came over and said something to the effect of "im glad every time a dog gets run over, i hate dogs".
Not apples to apples mind you, but then why should i bother with a more coherent theme when you show a distinct lack of grasp of prudct cycles.
These kind of events herald the begining of the end for a game. When the top end moves on the game hits a down turn.
There may be another spike at the start of WOTLK.
But i expect WOTLK will also have a more accelerated drop off than BC did (which followed the heels of vanilla wow pushing WOW to the top of the industry).
The more you dilute the game and make gear and progression more readily available (easier) the faster things get boring.
Remember when you played doom back as a kid (or a teenager for me)?
Those levels got harder and harder, but you kept trying and kept trying.
Then one day you found out about "god" mode.
You beat the game in an hour and stopped playing it, right?
Thats what all these easy epics and smaller and smaller raids are doing for wow.
We are already witnessing the tailing off of wow.
More and more accounts are being cancelled.
Fewer and fewer people are joining the game.
While it may not "technically" be to late to fix the game, too many people would be too upset by the ramifications of what it would take to do so.
A good thing that SC2 is soon forthcoming.
vlad Jun 11th 2008 3:12PM
the whole point is the endgame was dumbed down so people like you can get to it. now all the hardcore are bored. but your daft so me spelling out what was allready spelled out probably wont sink in. so enjoy kara while i go to teh beack :)
Rin Jun 12th 2008 6:59AM
Comments made by people who are obviously jealous of these people and what they dead amuse me to no end. This is a group of people who have never met you or done anything to or against you, and yet here you sit, laughing and flaming them as their guild, which most of them probably really loved and had a lot of fun in, goes down. You're all making assumptions that they went so fast because they didn't care about the "lore" or about "the experience" but how could you possibly know that?
You're all winners. Good job.
Comely Jun 11th 2008 9:52AM
Even if the guild was named Fort and not Forte that would still be a bad pun.
Antiquity Jun 11th 2008 10:16AM
Can't wait for 10 man Wrath. It will destroy most 25 man guilds and this drama of "content is coming out fast enough"
BS.
You cannot play a game non stop and raid 5 nights a week and then whine about it. This game and others are meant to be played in small chunks and you should TAKE YOUR TIME doing it.
With 10 man progression, my guild still isn't going to try to fly through stuff. We'll take out time and have fun.
Naix Jun 11th 2008 10:17AM
Wow another guild breaks up. *yawn* I am sure another one formed soon after. Is that going to make front page news too? Honestly I don't care what so called "top" guild on some server breaks up. Perhaps we can talk about paint drying because that would be far more interesting.
Feinel Jun 11th 2008 10:36AM
It's not like you have to care, still though you cared enough to make a comment it seems.
Alchemistmerlin Jun 11th 2008 11:14AM
God I know, right?
I hate having this gun to my head forcing me to read every WoW Insider article! I pay a huge fee for this site, the articles should be about what I want!
HAM FISTED SARCASM
I need to stop reusing old jokes.
vlad Jun 11th 2008 3:01PM
because wowinsider like to attempt to make stars and heroes out of dorky kids that have no social life and kill virtual dragons before everyone else. cool!
Crypt King Jun 11th 2008 4:19PM
Hey Vlad obviously Mr PVP'r you're just as much a dork as the raiders because it's the same damn game that you play. Virtual Dragons is the basis of the damn game just as much as your 10 matches in Arena.
ringu0 Jun 11th 2008 10:41AM
> Forte Gaming, one of the top guilds
> in World of Warcraft and the world's first
> to kill Anetheron, disbanded over the weekend.
What, again?
Antiquity Jun 11th 2008 10:48AM
Yah exactly. Never even heard of them.
I really think its highly humorous when sites post things like "top guild", "top player", etc.
95% of the player base probably has no clue who or what they are and don't even care.
It's a game.