The Care and Feeding of Warriors: Gearing for Karazhan, Fury/Arms pt 1

I geared my tauren for pure DPS all the way back in pre-Burning Crusade content. I ran LBRS and UBRS constantly for gear upgrades, PvP'd for the epics, collected an assortment of dps rings and trinkets. I was fortunate to be playing horde side with a talented and well-practiced undead warrior who primarily wanted to tank, and so I could work on being DPS in my own unusual idiom... I've always preferred two handed weapons over dual wielding, even though I don't dispute the incredible damage potential of the DW builds. It comes down to two things: can you still do significant damage with a two hander, and what looks cooler?
To me, the answers were always yes, and a big honking sword or axe smashing down in a tauren's gigantic armored hands. I'm glad to say it still holds true, especially when that great honking sword or axe is Jin'rokh, Now that my human has progressed beyond Kara it's still fun to come on runs in DPS gear, spec arms and crush things into paste. We don't always have the luxury of coming to Karazhan massively outgearing the instance, however.
The next two posts will be about gearing up for the crushing of skulls and the tearing of ectoplasmic flesh in Karazhan. First off, as a DPS warrior you'll be disappointed by the paucity of DPS plate inside the instance. There's some nice weapons in here, especially off of Prince, but as far as armor goes the pickings redefine the word slim. Take a look: there's one piece that could be considered DPS plate, and even that piece is only considered DPS because it is a set of boots with no defense on it and two sockets. So if you're seeking DPS gear upgrades in Karazhan, you need to either consider mail and leather, just focus on weapons, or hope for the DPS versions of Tier 4.
But first you have to get in, right? Well, there are ways to gear up for this entry level raid instance, my friends. Let us discuss them.
Plated for death
There's a lot to consider in DPS gear for warriors nowadays. Haste, armor penetration, hit, crit, strength for attack power... all of these stats must be taken into account, and unfortunately pre-raid gear isn't really itemized for all of them. Fury and Arms need slightly different stats (arms warriors generally look for 142 hit rating, as just one example) but they're looking at the same gear pool to achieve their different goals.
Let's start our look at armor for DPS warriors with a look at the Doomplate Battlegear. Doomplate in general has strength, stamina, sockets and decent set bonuses. We'll look at the chestplate for an example of what I'm talking about: it is a solid item, not amazing, not going to make your eyes pop out but it does everything an aspiring DPS warrior can ask a piece of armor at this level to do. It provides you with stamina to survive splash damage like cleaves, AoE, charred earth (trust me, you'll be running out of a lot of this) and strength so you can deal some damage back. It has critical strike rating and three gem sockets, allowing you to customize it further to make up for any deficiencies it may have for your particular playstyle. Doomplate is not optimized for arms or fury, it's intended as a general set of DPS armor for warriors or retribution paladins, and so what it lacks in directed focus it makes up for in customization options. The set's real downside comes in the fact that, as instance loot, you may kill the bosses that drop it over and over again and still never see it.
Gloves
There are a great many options from five mans and heroics still available to the DPS crowd, however. Items like the Gauntlets of Cruel Intentions for example, from Botanica, or the Heretic's Gauntlets from the Skettis questlines in Terokkar Forest. Both are comparable to the Doomplate Gauntlets, but replace socket flexibility with straight critical strike bonus. If you're a blacksmith or just willing to haunt the AH, you can pick up the Ragesteel Gauntlets, with their high strength and crit and total lack of stamina or any customization. You can also pick up the Adamantite Plate Gloves a little earlier than that, they're similar to a 'Doomplate Jr." with their two sockets. Finally, if you're a Scryer and feeling low on hit there's the Gauntlets of the Vanquisher. Back in the day these gloves almost made me go Scryer, but I stayed true to my Aldor roots.
Helms
Hats, you say? What do we wear on our heads while we slaughter the dead in Kara? Well, if you're an engineer, it will be these. Yeah, I know. Makes you want to be an engineer/blacksmith, doesn't it? Go ahead, try and level up that combination without alts feeding you mats. However, if you have the ability to do that, the hat is worth it. It makes my stomach hurt to look at it, it's that good. Your aspiring fury or arms warrior is pretty much done looking for a hat for PvE until Vashj if those are strapped onto the head. My tauren actually wore The Horseman's Helm for quite a while, and if you happened to be running SM last Halloween and picked it up it's a solid DPS hat to walk into Karazhan with, but if you don't have it I expect it will be fairly obsolete by next Halloween.
A solid blue option at this level is the Overlord's Helmet of Second Sight, available through the bestest quest there ever was.All those wipes in Black Temple were my fault! Well, at least I got a nice hat out of it. Unfortunately, on a tauren it looks like one of those collars the vet puts on your dog to keep it from biting at something. If you want pure attack power and crit, there's the Ragesteel Helm, which is a very straighforward hat. "Jorm smash." It knows what it wants to do.
If you're running heroic Ramparts, you can find the Irondrake Faceguard in the fel iron chest. Frankly, despite the impressive stats, I'd skip it for the Overlord's. Finally, there's Doomplate, which looks less impressive on paper, but has a meta gem socket which means you can slap all sorts of lovely gems into it, like a haste gem. Since haste weighting is very hard to achieve at this level of gear, keep that in mind.
Chestplates
What about our precious torsos? (I never get tired of that joke. Everyone else does.) Well, if you're feeling like you can run heroic Magisters' Terrace (perhaps you have four really awesome friends, and the reason you haven't been in Kara yet is just that you don't have enough people) then there's the Netherforce Chestplate off of Kael'thas.It's a really rather impressive DPS chestplate, especially if you're not raiding. I think, if you're not raiding, this is not the easiest heroic to attempt but nevertheless, it exists and you can five man the place. (I use the Netherforce in my pure attack power set, as those three gem sockets allow you to slap whatever you'd like in there. Basically, if you're at the 'about to start Karazhan' level, you won't find much better than this.
If you're an armorsmith, of course, you can craft yourself Breastplate of Kings, the starting chestplate for the epic level armorsmithing chests. The final version is superior to the Netherforce.
If, however, you aren't a blacksmith and you're not regularly farming the hardest heroic instance in the game, there are many blue options available to get you into the Karazhan door. Heroic Ramparts presents you with the Crimsonforge Breastplate, a solid contender with hit, crit, stam and strength. We've covered Doomplate already, but here it is again, a solidly customizable option. The Ragesteel Breastplate is not about being fancy at all, it lacks stam for pure AP and crit. It does what it does and it's worth checking the AH for when you hit 70. If you happen to be doing the second bestest quest ever while leveling in Blade's Edge, the Blackened Chestplate will help fill a slot for you, but you can replace it a single zone later if that's your intention. Also, I should mention this solid chest from normal Old Hillsbrad, which is surprisingly good for arms warriors.
Shoulders
What do we wear on our shoulders? After all, you can't just show up without some huge thing on them. Even though in my entire life outside the game I have never once worn a specific item of clothing just for my shoulders, while on Azeroth one simply cannot go without. It's not done. If people have decided to start farming Kazzak on your server, you may find Ripfiend Shoulderplates on the AH. After all, the guy is right there, making Hellfire dailies more annoying. If, however, you're not lucky enough for that to be the case, then you'll need to look elsewhere.
Heroic Magisters's Terrace would like to direct you to the Shoulderplates of Endless Pain. Selin Fireheart drops them, and they're a solid choice. Even on heroic it's not the hardest fight in the instance by a long shot, a group geared from running regular heroics should have a solid shot at this guy. These are weighted towards haste and flexibility from those sockets, but if you're already hit capped and can afford solid blue or even epic gems, these are worth considering. (And you're going to want the Netherforce anyway.) They're not as flat out excellent as the chestplate.
If you're looking for blue options, there's the remarkable Ragesteel Shoulders, which surpass the rest of the set by a long while. WIth solid attack power, a dose of stam to keep you up when you're taking AoE damage, two sockets and both hit and crit, these are significant shoulders for anyone gearing up to DPS in Kara. They are superior to the Doomplate, to the Pauldrons of the Crimson Flight, to the Spaulders of Slaughter and maybe even to the shoulders from heroic Magisters unless you're working on a haste set.
Legs
Pants are what separates us from the animals. Well, that, and all the other aspects of human culture, but now we've just ruined the whole saying.
What pants should you wear to accentuate your murderous impulses? Well, if you're feeling up to running a heroic there's the excellent Vanquisher's Legplates from heroic Mechanar. You can usually find a tank interested in running this, if you're not willing to spec over and do it yourself. (Hint: Pathaleon drops this. Go as tank and get them both.) Meanwhile, you can hit the AH and pick up these, which should just be called the Ragesteel Leggings anyway. If you're horde and you want hybrid DPS/tank legs, there's always these. The Doomplates provide solid hit and crit and contribute towards the Doomplate set bonus, while the Bloodlord Legplates not only look like Might, but they also have sockets for the customizers among us. They drop in heroic Blood Furnace.
Hey, what about the PvP options?
I haven't forgotten them. While they're not ideal for PvE, the fact that Season 4 is coming soon makes them worth mentioning for up and coming DPS warriors who can spend the time in battlegrounds. Your options here are the Savage Plate Battlegear, purchasable from reputation vendors across Outland and at the Caverns of time, the Gladiator's Battlegear purchasable via honor and marks until June 24th, when it will be replaced by the Merciless Gladiator's Battlegear. Frankly, the Merciless is more than good enough for Kara, even with wasted stam and resilience taking up pure DPS budgeting.
Okay, this looks like a reasonable place to stop. Next week, we'll cover rings, necklaces, trinkets, boots, belts and weapons for arms and fury warriors. Please make any suggestions for that column and any corrections or oversights that belonged in this week's installment in the comments if you would be so kind. I'm off to soak my hands in ice water.
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Reader Comments (Page 1 of 2)
Naix Jun 13th 2008 3:24PM
Death Knights will allow warriors to be accepted as a viable DPS.
Matthew Rossi Jun 13th 2008 3:30PM
Warriors are accepted as viable DPS now. It's just that, like all other classes that can tank (Paladins and Druids) there's more demand for them in the tanking role.
Frankly, a fourth tanking class won't change much one way or another.
George Jun 13th 2008 4:03PM
Meh, warriors are accepted as DPS in 25 man raids and up. Part of that is the need for CC and aggro control in 5 mans (until you utterly outgear it). In Kara, there's a bit of that left over. It's hard to carry a DPS whose output is less than others that take less damage and offer more utility.
Warriors are so gear dependent as DPS that the best way to progress is as a tank until 25 mans (doesn't really start to take off until T5) and save up badges for the new gear.
Naix Jun 13th 2008 4:15PM
I have never been in a 5 man with a warrior that is not a tank.
A fourth tanking class would ease the pressure of warrior to tank by expanding the tanking pool. Thus allowing the warrior to focus more on DPS and less on tanking.
Matthew Rossi Jun 13th 2008 4:31PM
I don't see any reason to believe that. Warriors used to be the only tanks, now there are three tanking classes and yet you only see warriors as tanks in your five mans.
Why should the addition of a fourth change that?
Naix Jun 13th 2008 4:47PM
A bigger tank pool would allow for this. The same was true with Priests for the healing role. Priests used to be the sot after healer of choice for instances and raids. After level 60 if you were a Priest and not holy spec you could expect not to go on an instance run. After BC came out the hybrid classes healing got bumped up to be an option as main healer for a group. Now Priests can choose another spec besides holy and still be considered for a instance/raid.
I guess we will have to wait and see.
dan Jun 14th 2008 2:50PM
The reason you saw shadow priests become viable is that blizz made them so desirable in terms of synergy. Even in 5mans they add value and utility in caster heavy groups and free heals. It really has less to do with other hybrids filling the gap.
Thalaure Jun 22nd 2008 9:30AM
I agree with Mr. Rossi. The addition of DK's has little to do with the current acceptance of Warriors as DPS. Demand for Warriors, Paladins and Druids lies in their tanking specs, and it's unlikely you'll ever find "LF1M Kitty/Ret/Arms/Fury dps" in chat; and expecting the addition of another outlet of our tanking desires to suddenly reverse that trend is madness.
The more likely scenario is persons such as myself (Warrior/Pally/Druid tank toons) or Mr. Rossi will add yet ANOTHER tank to our repertoire, and those who roll DPS will STILL wonder "Why in the name of God is there still a tank shortage?"
shinken Jun 13th 2008 9:53PM
LOl, you think DKs are going to fill the tank spot for warriors can dps?
More like you will lose your spot to a Dk who can put up a anti magic shell for his group.
DPS warriors already do too much dmg for a hybrid. (In pve. warriors are fine in pvp)
I forsee another rage nerf in the future.
original2k Jun 13th 2008 3:44PM
great write up Mr. Rossi, i actually pvp with my warrior and leveling up it's annoying to get constant pst's asking me to tank (like we are predisposed to it). which is understandable as you mentioned the demand for tanks is much greater with so many DPSers running around.
great source of info you've compiled here, as i'm now running through outlands i'll be keeping these gear choices in mind
brucimus Jun 13th 2008 3:59PM
Nice write up Rossi.
Naix... DPS Warriors are already Viable DPSers. We get more Viable the bigger the group we are in. Yes we do have limited appeal in the 5 man situations because Rogues have the crowd control that we don't ...but when you get into 25 man content a fury/Arms Warrior makes your melee group much more deadly
Naix Jun 13th 2008 4:31PM
I agree nice write up.
I guess I have not done enough 25 man instance runs to experience warriors as DPS'ers. If you guys say warriors can put out some good DPS I believe you. I just have not seen it.
MartinC Jun 13th 2008 4:06PM
I'm been Prot since day 1 (and am still Prot), but have been improving my DPS gear, mostly with drops for Kara, honor purchases, and badge rewards. I'm now able to 500-600dps with my DPS gear (while still Prot) which I'm quite happy with. Throw an Enh Shaman in my group, and it goes 700-800dps.
Last time in Kara, we had the offtank handle Curator, so I got to go DPS, and I ended up as #1 with 750dps. Everyone else was like "holy CRAP", which of course made me smile.
Mark Jun 13th 2008 4:19PM
DW or Giant Two Hander of Death?
Richelieu Jun 13th 2008 5:08PM
Actually, I never want a warrior tank unless its my outstanding guild leader for a 25 man raid or possibly two others for Kara. In 5 mans I will ALWAYS choose a paladin or druid over a warrior. They can hold more mobs easier than even the most skilled of warriors. I would think most people agree with me too, seeing as how I never even see warrior tanks on my server.
Richelieu Jun 13th 2008 5:17PM
Also they only way death knights WON'T fill the void for tanks is if a huge number of people roll a deathknight to dps. It's all about ratios...
Alkahn Jun 13th 2008 5:27PM
Do you intend to include leather/mail options at all?
The legs off of Quagmirran (leather) are better than the ones from Heroic Mech for fury if you're not being hit.
Matthew Rossi Jun 13th 2008 6:23PM
if there's enough demand for it, I might, but unlike Enhancement Shamans, warriors can usually find plate with stats they want, even if there are mail and leather pieces that would also serve them well.
Dom Jun 14th 2008 2:22AM
Well as of right now i am an aspiring Fury Warrior [68] and also the guild master of a small guild. As of right now, my guild consists of around thirty people or so (most of which are high 60s or 70s) and i plan on setting up a kara run once we get more members and of course after we gear up(Nice guide btw, very helpful).
My problem/quetsion: Out of all of my high-level guildmates, most of them are rogues. I do not enjoy tanking as much as i do DPS, therefore i would rather continue Fury/Arms rather than respecing prot.
Do i stand a chance against all these rogues? And if i dont, should i simply respec or get use to coming in behind other classes for DPS?
niko Jun 16th 2008 2:31PM
the rogues are better dps than a fury/arms warrior in kara. Easily.
Respec prot, learn the fights, reap the rewards. Kara has some awesome tank gear to keep around as off-spec. With the badges you win from your Kara expeditions, you can fill in the dps gear slots quite nicely.
Do this for a month and tell me you don't have two sets of T4/T5 class gear no matter what your spec is.
Tanking has its benefits.