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6-30-2008 @ 11:40AM
We have a core of about 15 fully epicced in some form or other of s1/s2/s3/s4/t4/t5 (a few t6 pieces here and there) and we are trying to get into the 25 mans. Our problem is that we have new members coming in who we get geared quickly for the purpose of 25 mans and then they leave because they dont want to wait a few weeks to get up to 20 (were willing to pug a few) to start. We tried an alliance with another guild but we got their guys and ours geared and they all left. You cant win for trying. This especially sucks because we spent a month and got a healer fully epicced from 68-69 greens, then he left, and you know how hard it is to get healers. I guess were coming to the realization that our TBC end game may occur after we can 15 man the current instances.
6-30-2008 @ 11:54AM
Yeah this happened to an old guild of mine. The guild was very casual and apparently loved to run kara. But it kinda became a breeding ground for gearing up people and having them stop play or leave for somewhere else. After a while this hit me too. We were in kara for 6 months, and when our RL/GL/MT went on an unannounced 3 week vacation and we couldn't even get curator down, I decided it was time to cut my losses. Still feel bad (and they now treat me as a traitor - i still have an alt who's now 70 in the guild, i'm moving that alt soon too). At some point you have to figure, well I've spent 6 months raiding with these guys, and what i'm looking for isnt' going to happen before the expansion hits, so I might as well stop raiding or move to a different raiding guild. And thats what i did, and the new guild is much much better in terms of organization and personality and maturity. This guild, btw now has ~50 active 70s, but can't down Gruul yet. So...yeah some guilds just aren't going to make the 25 man transition.
6-30-2008 @ 3:50PM
this worries me. our guild is young, started by two 70s a couple months back. we have a solid group of 5 others in their mid 50s leveling up. recruiting beyond this has been difficult so we have been attempting to form relationships with other small guild in hopes of raiding when the rest are ready. there has not been much interest so far, and your post echoes of why. running the guild so far as casual/leveling we are getting accustomed to the "use 'em and lose 'em" approach of some recruits that cause some churn. We just hope another guild will give an alliance a chance.
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