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6-30-2008 @ 1:40PM
My guild has several 25 man raids going. There deffinately have been some that fell apart due to the things mentioned above, but the majority are still going strong. I think it's important to remember that people play this game to have fun. Getting gear and seeing new content is fun, but what do you do when you have the gear and you've seen the content? People get bored. They stop coming. They could have more fun doing something else. Our raid leaders do a great job of providing a good time. Vent is always buzzing with jokes, stories, games, and conversation. Even people that don't need gear keep showing up week after week because they have a good time. It's certainly not easy to do this when you need to train people to do the fights, but if you can give people a reason to show up, even if they don't NEED to be there, they will show up. Good luck!
7-01-2008 @ 12:39AM
I think you're on to the one thing not mentioned here, fun. Trade/General/LFG and the forum is filled with recruitment notices this summer. WOW is just not fun for a lot of people. The demise of one of the best endgame guilds anywhere because they had seen it all and done it all is a case in point. That's something of a generalization but it wasn't fun for them anymore. I'm lucky. I've added three more people to my guild because we are not afraid to be fun or to create fun while doing instances or endgame content. I guess I would want to know if Neur's GL is involved in the planning of other guild events or is s/he primarily involved in the endgame progression raiding. Just as "all work and no play makes Jack a dull boy", all endgame raiding and no break to do something else makes a guild a grind factory. Maybe Neur's guild needs to step back and do something completely different, guild dueling night, PvP night, instance night, where the emphasis is NOT on raiding or progression and just on fun. The week doesn't have to be about gathering mats to make things so you are equipped for yet another assault of insert latest instance. I have found that mixing the silly with the serious means people come to the next serious raid more relaxed and more willing to wipe several times in order to learn a fight.
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