The Arena is about to get diseased
As we're already starting to see, our good friends the Death Knights juggle some abilities centered around an as-of-yet unrepresented PC damage type: Disease. There is a variety of plagues and diseases which will obviously have direct application in the arena. I wonder if, as PvP-guru Zach put it, Death Knights might be the rock to the Druid's scissors. This isn't the first time we've seen Blizzard willing to put a strong counter to Resto Druids in the hands of a single class. (Arguments about Hunters/Druids being the strong counter to Warrior/Druids are kind of aside here - both comps still have Druids.) You don't see how this new damage type is the Druid counter? It's pretty simple -- Druids don't have a cleanse that works against Disease.
If Death Knights become a favored arena class, then the presence of Disease in the Arena could help provide solid reason to go Paladin or Priest over Druid. Of course, that assumes the disease effects are significant enough to matter. And cleansing all that Disease is still going to be a pain even for our Paladins: they can only cleanse one at a time, and they'd blow through quite a few global cooldowns trying to clear their partners.
I don't know if this dynamic was intentional, but I would find it hard to believe that Blizzard's ignorant of it. They tend to have an idea about what's going on. We don't know what new gear will be available to combat diseases (Resistance? Resilience?), and it's still way early to be hedging bets -- but introducing the Death Knight and their diseases should certainly mix things up.
Edit: I've not forgotten about Shamans, but I was mostly focused on Druids in this article. My apologies to any Shaman who issued a rightful reminder for the call out.
Filed under: Druid, Analysis / Opinion, Classes, Death Knight, Arena
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Reader Comments (Page 2 of 2)
bloodlight Jul 1st 2008 10:48PM
arena is a Disease.
Terry Jul 1st 2008 10:40PM
just 1 totem down and DK's dot is useless :P
Ballad Jul 1st 2008 10:36PM
Druid's = Poisons and Curses
Paladin's = Magic, Poisons and Diseases
Priests = Magic and Diseases
Shamans = Poisons and Diseases
Mages = Curses
Sounds to me like there is nothing really to worry about considering the different classes that can make up "Cleansers".
The only thing that is worrying is the influx of DK at the start of wrath, hopefully it will pass and we will see some levelling progression rather than insane DK arena teams.
supermint Jul 2nd 2008 2:21AM
Also, priests will be getting a 'cure poison' added onto one of the spells. dont recall which one though
Spanky Jul 1st 2008 10:42PM
I'm going to love with deathknights come out.
DeathKnight-toBe Jul 1st 2008 10:44PM
No more arenas?
Thats what I tought lol from the title of these,silly of me I know but well I guess its what I wanted to think .
Hate arenas too ..
DK druid counter?
Yes,they got :
DeathGrip(Reverse charge) that pulls the travel-druid.
Magic/Deseases.Both strong things druids cant clean
Anti Hot Strike.Theres a DK strike that "corrutpts" hots
DKs really seem to be coming very well IMO,the biggest thing is that they seem to be really designed.
Ret pallys had that whole SP/meelee scaling disparity problem,hunters were patched a bunch of times and warriors had to go through rage normalizations.
But Deathknights..
It seems like blizzard thought about everything on them.
At first sight they are OP with all the plate,damage,dots,cc and anti spell and a pet.
At second sight they seem weak ,no real snare or snare remover and weak CC.
But then when you really take a deep look,they seem balanced.With the Ghoul in play,how its a very easy thing to get yet a CD,the many arena based skills but also how they can costumize their runes pre combat.
From what ive seen,DK might be the most balanced class of all in every aspect.
Shefki Jul 2nd 2008 12:59AM
By the logic in this article Affliction locks should be the counter to Druids because short of a single curse all the rest of their spells are magic and Druids can't remove that. The truth is the druid simply heals through the dots and ends up doing it easier than a lot of classes.
The existance of diseases alone will not be a counter to druids anymore than physical damage (can't be displled either) or magic debuffs.
Counters to HoTs may be a very strong counter but that's not really the focus of the article. As someone else pointed out Blizzard appears to be giving Druids more direct heal options to provide some balance.
It's far too early to draw any sweeping conclusions about what alpha talents/abilities will play out on live servers. However, I seriously doubt this is certain doom for Druids in Arena.
Comic Jul 2nd 2008 1:33AM
I lol at all you druid haters. I play a warrior and killing a druid, while tough, is just a matter of know what to do. It isn't impossible. Druids are actually the easiest healing class to kill at the moment from a warrior perspective.
Side note: i play a s3 gladiator warrior and have faced
many phenomenal druids.
TwhiT Jul 2nd 2008 2:02AM
i agree
Jukasa Jul 2nd 2008 7:39AM
Of course he didnt remember Shaman, they are not arena compatible. According to Kalgan they're even gonna nerf Eleshaman burst DPS to hell (like they already tried in patch 2.whatever.) Never have been, never will be. Too much length to catch up..
I laughed some when I read the 3on3 arena tournament post. "What is this tournament missing? Shamans of course. They are not here at all, _but for lols sake they are still viable_." Get a grip!
Its the same logic as the blue poster that helped me quit WoW altogether who said "Shaman isnt an unpopular class, but the other classes are just so ridiculously popular".
Deejus Jul 2nd 2008 11:54AM
i hear all this talk about shaman totems but they only have 5 health and are easily disposed of. they aren';t as great as they are being made out be IMO.
STereo Jul 2nd 2008 12:13PM
Having another plate class in arena is going to drive hunters even lower in the rankings.
Ikarus Jul 2nd 2008 5:47PM
armor piercing arrows ftw!
Heleth Jul 2nd 2008 1:35PM
You know what I was just thinking. I was just thinking, "Man, my paladin would be much more fun in the arenas if I could SPAM THE CRAP OUT OF CLEANSE SOME MORE!"
Yeah.
Fun.
Zeplar Jul 2nd 2008 7:24PM
Um, that's not the reason DK is the druid counter.
Maybe you forgot that they have a spell that does a shitload of damage if the target has a HoT and causes the HoT to drain life instead of healing it?