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7-05-2008 @ 3:22PM
You all miss a point.We bring food, a portal and an occasional crowd control on trash mobs.Why should we bother?Each of those things does NOTHING for our own enjoyment. Our current skills merely enhance the abilities you have, without even the small benefit healers have of topping the healing charts.You all claim to care less whether we get buffed? Fine. Buy your own food, walk back from Karazhan and deal with crowd control your way.Ah, you say...but we can do all of that, no problem. Of course you can, which is exactly our point. We offer nothing to a raid, really, right now. You won't even miss us. YOU...all HAV E your skills. You don't need mages, and the idea that mages might become more valuable, and LESSEN your valus, is abhorrent to you.One more point. Someone posted as a rogue he was just as fragile as a mage. Someone else stated his warlock DPS was no bewtter than a mage. To both of you, I say...bollocks.
7-05-2008 @ 4:11PM
Why bring a Shadow priest to the high end raids? Oh, that's right, to help the other classes keep their mana filled. Enchancement shaman? Oh yes, Windfury to help the rogues, oh, let's throw in a Ret paladin and Fury warrior for their melee buffs as well. The fascination with topping the dps meters is what is causing problems for WoW. People need to realize that they are part of a team, whether it's a raid, arena team or BG pug. Know your role, and work with it.Mages are not broken, by any means. Yeah, there could be some changes, and I do like the idea of their dps being buffed in Wrath. However, crying about not topping the damage meters in a a raid because a warlock beat you, that's just sad. And that is what gets the "lrn2pla" comments directed towards you.
7-05-2008 @ 4:47PM
It isn't just the warlocks, buds.It's the warlocks, the rogues, the hunters, the fury warriors and, in fact, almost any class which has a DPS spec available.Telling mages to "learn to play" is simple. Most other classes don't have to learn to play, cause they have armor, or pets, or stealth, or various forms...all of which remove problems for them. Mages have...ice block. Ice block works once, every five minutes.There is no "L2P" that's gonna make ice block's cooldown any faster.But we have frost nova? Try using it. Let a pet attack you, or a rogue, and try using frost nova to escape. WHAT??? The pet resisted it? WHAT?? The rogue stunned you? Gee...you died.I don't mind the fact that mages are fragile...but I want something in return for it. Saying we have comparable damage...which we don't...isn't cutting it. If we have to be the most fragile, we deserve to be the most damaging. And the idiot rogues and such, in their leather and mail armor who say, "But WE'RE just as fragile!" are still...bollocks.
7-05-2008 @ 4:52PM
I agree with Kaphik, as a main raiding holy priest, I sometimes get to relieve myself from healing and have more fun on my Ret paladin. "Each of those things does NOTHING for our own enjoyment. Our current skills merely enhance the abilities you have, without even the small benefit healers have of topping the healing charts."Do you seriously think they are bringing me for my leet DPS? I don't think so. They bring me for my extra buff, and put me in the melee group for my aura. I get NOTHING for my own enjoyment, just as you so claim. I am merely there to buff, even to the point that my main damage ability, Crusader Strike, was given the purpose to keep other paladin buffs up, furthering my "Your just here to help" role.Does this piss me off? Hell no, I don't care about topping the meters, if all I can do is be there and make our awesome DPS do even more, then that is fine with me. Becuase its about the GROUP, not just about you.
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