Buying your way through raid content
There's a new game in town, and Artirius of the Aerie Peak server has noticed it, and admittedly, so have I. With attunements gone, it is now possible for any level 70 to go in and see tier 5 and 6 content whenever they want. Of course, they don't generally have a prayer of actually downing bosses unless they have 20-24 well geared people to help them out.
That's where gold comes in. With a few thousand gold, you can buy your way into a tier 6 group that doesn't need the tier 6 armor and go along for the ride. A few hours later, you come out on the other end with Illidan dead and a few shiny new drops, even if you've never set foot in Karazhan.
It's not just people trying to buy these slots in the trade channel either. As Artirius observes, many raid groups are actively soliciting for buyers for their raid slots. On my own server, one Horde group is trading tier 6 runs for large quantities of certain herbs, promising that all but a few select drops will go to the people who buy their slots with stacks of Netherbloom and Ghost Mushrooms.
So what's causing this?
Artirius blames it on the removal of attunements, but I'm not sure it's that simple. I'd say the primary thing is all these new dailies. With a minimum of effort, a person can earn somewhere between 200-300 gold a day doing the basic Isle of Quel'danas dailies. If you're a relatively casual player, someone who does their dailies, maybe a bit of tradeskilling, and a couple dungeon runs and a Karazhan run every week, you don't have much to spend your gold on. You buy your epic flying mount, and you're more or less done, especially if you're not the type to bother enchanting or gemming your gear to the max. Therefore, spending the money on dungeon runs is about the only way left for them to use it.
Similarly, since many people are abandoning gathering trade skills such as Herbalism and Mining in favor of using daily money to buy what they need and build a fortune, raiding guilds are left high and dry when restocking their guild bank for resist gear and consumables. In order to get the herbs, ore, and primals they need, they either must take time off from raiding to gather everything themselves, or they must buy it all at prices inflated by the glut of daily money. By a similar token, they may find themselves in tier 6 content long after they have most of the drops they need, looking for one or two final items that refuse to drop. By selling gear slots, they can make the cash they need to buy their consumables and build a repair fund without suspending raiding, and they only need to give away things their raiders don't need anyway.
So is this something that can be fixed? Is this something that should be fixed?
There have always been people buying raid slots -- or simply taking up spare slots in a friend's raid group. Back before Burning Crusade, Our AQ40 raid group had had no luck getting the Imperial Qiraji Regalia to drop, which was sort of bumming Alex out, since he had his eye on the Qiraji Augur's staff, even passing up other drops to save his DKP for it. Then he saw a druid in green armor in Stormwind, wielding that very staff. We weren't on Ventrilo at the time, but I swear I heard his cry of anguish anyway, and he certainly gave us an earful in guild chat, poor guy. By a similar token, I do recall seeing more than one instance of people in green gear with random pieces of tier 2 armor. So we can't completely say this is a new phenomenon.
There's a bit envy and annoyance in seeing people being able to skip months of wiping and progression and get a piece of gear that you've been struggling to get for months, especially if what's holding you back is the fact that it just refuses to drop.
At the same time, our druid friend with the staff proves that sometimes, in an MMORPG, it's as much about who you know (or what you can pay) as much as how much work you put into something or how much skill you have. That's probably a truth that isn't really going away, and even without a surplus of gold from dailies, we'll always have those people who leapfrog content. If you put in attunements, they'll buy their way through the attunements too. If you limit the gold they can get, they'll just take a bit longer to find it, or find some other way to get that spare raid slot.
At the same time, the fact that non-raiders are bored or rich enough to spend their money on raid slots like this is something Blizzard could probably stand to fix, and it would likely make the game more enjoyable all around. The dance studio and barber shop in WoTLK should help with this, but some more long term, expensive options like player housing or taxidermy would provide lots of fun money sinks that would probably suck up a lot of the extra gold in the economy pretty quickly, if implemented well.
Then again, they could just make level 80 daily quests give a lot less gold, too.
Filed under: Herbalism, Bosses, Raiding, Instances, Cheats, Analysis / Opinion, Items, Alchemy, Mining, Making money






Reader Comments (Page 1 of 2)
dan Jul 5th 2008 6:09PM
Daniel, meet Adam. He's part of the problem.
http://www.wowinsider.com/2008/07/05/poll-how-much-would-you-pay-for-an-amani-war-bear/
Memzer Jul 5th 2008 7:47PM
In answer to that poll - You can buy a bear mount on our sever for 10k gold :)
Memzer Jul 5th 2008 7:48PM
I should add that in doing so you'll miss out on the challenge of actually completing timed ZA yourself but it's handy for alts :)
Vendrill Jul 6th 2008 2:33AM
Oh dear god... Holisky is the WORST
DurWrathi Jul 5th 2008 6:14PM
The amount of gold and lack of attunements are just enablers, not the real source of the problem. Rather, there is a very real demand by the 90% of players that are not hard core raiders to see endgame content, to confront Illidan and Archimonde and be involved in the epic storyline, encounters, and adventure of Warcraft. That demand has always been there, but with the removal of attunements and massing of gold, it’s now much easier to satisfy.
I’m not convinced this is a problem that needs fixing. But for what it’s worth, I think we are going to see less and less of this come WOTLK. Not only will the presence of more gold-sinks help remove one of the enablers, but the changing of raids to always having a 10-man version will make it that much easier for everyone and their grandmother to see true endgame content and participate it in the epic story and battles.
There will always be an elite 10% of the player base that pushes the bleeding edge of the content, but the changes to the game should help alleviate some of the pent-up demand that the remaining 90% of the players have for end-game.
Nairb Jul 5th 2008 6:23PM
We live in a free market economy. Let people earn and spend their money as they wish.
You sound like a damn democrat. Next you'll want to raiding tax or something.
Wulfhere Jul 5th 2008 6:29PM
"So is this something that can be fixed? Is this something that should be fixed? "
Learn to read. Of course, since you're the kind of mindless dullard who leaves knee-jerk politicial crap comments like this, maybe learning to read couldn't save you from being a total idiot. Go back and reread the piece. Move your lips if you have to. But try and actually grasp what he's saying instead of whatever completely mindless, totally unrelated, dementedly oblivious filter you slapped over your brain before you looked at this piece.
If you have the nuts to actually think for yourself instead of letting some idiot with bad hair tell you what to think, that is. Enjoy your almost five dollars to the gallon gasoline, man.
Angry Joe Jul 5th 2008 6:34PM
I'm sorry, but the WoW economy is no market economy and Blizzard dictates what you can do.
ILikePvPbuthatePvPers Jul 5th 2008 7:28PM
I'd rather be a Democrat than a damn dirty Republican.
"Let's give more money to the rich! And take away rights of some of our citizens!"
Go back to your hole Anne Coulter. Bitch.
Iwanttobeasleep Jul 5th 2008 8:23PM
I'm a democrat and I disagree with the original post.
PS. Taxes are there for a reason, moron. See how quickly your paycheck dries up when your paying for private police, firefighters, road construction, water filtering, etc.
weasldude Jul 6th 2008 1:35PM
shut the fuxk up nairb, how about that.
you are ignorant. listen to wulfhere
Clem Jul 7th 2008 10:53AM
Wow, such venom from democrats.
Vlatch Jul 7th 2008 1:54PM
Let's just keep politics out of WoW and off of this blog, please. There's plenty of other places to discuss that kind of stuff.
Thanks.
Thundersmall Jul 5th 2008 7:04PM
Soo mutch time and effort spent in high end raiding and a very few that are ever going to see it??
Unless it is a movie on YouTube?
We all pay the same ammount of money to play and we all have the same right to visit every single place, even to get every single possible drop..
If some are a bit smarter and can spend thousands of gold or items with a high end guild..is there a problem?
It happends in real life..look at russia space agency and their paied trips to space..
So why forbit it to happen in wow?
Im just getting more and more sick of high end raiders complaining about "their loot" and "their content"
GROW UP!
We all have the same right to all of the content, we all pay equal to enjoy all of the game!
Solex Jul 6th 2008 12:41PM
I'm really against this... I'm sure there's a ton of people who "want to see end game content and use this as a means to an end." Honestly though, the only people I've ever seen buy gear or vials back when the attunement was up were people who were either bad players who truly had no business going any farther in content or ones that just wanted gear.
To me gear has never been about an excuse to look awesome (though my t6 shoulders are pretty rad) its like a badge of honor, when you roll through org or if and you see a guy with the bulwark or a warglaive you know that whoever that person is they did the content and came out on top, because usaully first bulwark goes to mt and glaives go to best rogues and wars in your guild but you know these people put in the time and effort to get these awesome drops.
Now you have people who feel slighted because guilds or what have you aren't conforming to their unique conflicts... sorry if you don't have time to raid, sorry if you're a bad player but stop expecting everything to be handed to you. and Thunder... I'll send you a warglaive and a t6 set because just by paying you deserve the world.
Dunwich Jul 5th 2008 7:44PM
I fail to see the problem, unless that gold was acquired from a gold-farmer.
If you earnt upwards of ten grand in-game, have a plethora of mounts (Netherdrake, Hypogriff AND Flying Machine), vanity items fully enchanted, a complete selection of twenty-slot bags, a private guild bank fully opened and other indicators you're truly loaded, but somehow lack the will or drive to raid, what's wrong with moving that money into the hands of those who'll use it in return for a chance at some Tier 6?
Iwanttobeasleep Jul 5th 2008 8:22PM
I'm contemplating it. My friend is moving on to a t6 guild, I'm in t4 because I took a break from raiding and have bad luck on drops. If I could buy some t5/t6 gear and get to keep playing with him it'd be boss.
vlad Jul 5th 2008 10:49PM
well, this really isnt new. i remember MC spots for t1 being sold before bwl was opened
Dightkuz Jul 6th 2008 2:13AM
In the end, it's all about money. Like always.
Greengiant Jul 6th 2008 3:47AM
This really isnt that new. We were doing it back all they way to BWL selling slots in BWL - Naxx. Its not really an issue imo. There arnt a whole lot of people who have the money to get fully epic out.
Most guilds sell drops. 3000 for High warlord-Mother, then 4000-5000g for Illidan. I dont see the big deal about wanting to pay for the cost of running a guild.
The money the guild makes goes for their continued efforts in higher end content. Consumables, repairs, etc... It is a great source of revenue for guilds.