Jennicide: Male players "need to be more accepting of women ingame"
Allakazaham has posted an interview with "Jennicide," who, as we reported previously, is not only a poker player and Playboy poser, but plays World of Warcraft as well. Unfortunately, she doesn't sound all that into the game (she does claim to have raided during a poker match, which is pretty awesome if true), but she does make an excellent point about Blizzard's marketing: as cool as William Shatner and Mr. T are, their ads could use a little more feminine touch, and they could certainly acknowledge all the women playing this game a little better.She also says that "guys need to be more accepting of women in game," and unfortunately she doesn't offer any solutions on how to make that happen, but it's good to hear someone say it -- just ask any girl who's been afraid to come on Ventrilo for fear that creepy guys will come out of the woodwork.
All in all, Jennicide sounds like she's got a good head on her shoulders (and she does actually win a few nerd points for playing The Realm). Maybe she's right -- more high profile female players might help turn the image of gender in game a little more close to equal.
Filed under: Analysis / Opinion, Virtual selves, Odds and ends, Blizzard






Reader Comments (Page 1 of 4)
Eli Jul 12th 2008 11:05AM
its my experience that us males act especially creepy just to creep them out more so.I love girls on vent its a nice change. Our guild seems to have at least 3 that i know of.
Ben Jul 12th 2008 11:12AM
In any situation I love having women around especially in wow. When you're raiding everyone is tense/concentrating there's always an oppurtunity to have a laugh/flirt over ts. In my experience they all take it as good fun, wow women ftw.
Marc Jul 12th 2008 11:16AM
I assume that every player in the game is a 30 year old male.
Matthew Rossi Jul 12th 2008 11:18AM
This will surprise my wife, a level 70 hunter, my guild's shaman class leader, our priest class leader, and several of our mages, warlocks, and druid tanks. There's at least 10 women in our 25 man raid force.
Timothy Jaxon Jul 12th 2008 11:18AM
Bah. I multi-table 3 SNGs while raid leading Karazhan all the time. Positive ROI too.
I do have to admit that when learning new content the poker laptop gets shut down. Priorities people!
kunukia Jul 12th 2008 11:26AM
My guild is about 50% women. We have several couples, and extended families, and RL friends, so that makes for more women I guess.
Markymark Jul 12th 2008 11:37AM
I think overall guys are accepting of women in-game it's just that you get the random dillweed who wants to harass them and then women think all guys in WoW act like that which is so untrue. I love playing WoW with girls makes you feel less weird of playing a game filled with dudes who live in their mom's basement lol. J/king!
Evie Jul 12th 2008 11:42AM
While WoW is not nearly as bad as some games I've played, until the female toons are not made to look like strippers women will not be treated equally ingame. Why is it that when I'm weraing a piece of armor it looks like a loincloth or bikini bottoms yet when a male alt puts it on it actually covers everything armor should cover? I don't want to go off on a rant about the sexism in the game, but please, guys, be aware that it does exist and it makes a lot of us chicks who play *extremely* uncomfortable.
Juliah Jul 12th 2008 12:55PM
Excellent point, Evie. Blizzard, it is exasperating being forced to choose between an item with better stats that looks like lingerie and an item with poor stats that actually covers us enough to possibly qualify as armor. Magical or not, it's not convincing to trot up to a boss and tank in a chainmail bikini. Female players are not here simply to supply designers, other players, or anyone else with eye candy. We should have a choice of gear. If a player wants to look like a tart, then fine, but please stop making it the default option.
And while I'm on the subject of sexism built into the game, how about an incubus?
The disproportionate majority (I've seen figures as high as 95%) of female players choose to play a character of their own gender. It's important to offer customization so that we're not forced into an appearance that doesn't suit our character concept.
While we're at it, offer some skimpy attire for the guys who choose to go that route. Equal time is equal time when it comes to character customization.
Jordrah Jul 12th 2008 2:05PM
is an incubus the male version of a succubus? lol (@ juliah)
but, aside from that, i would love to have some skimpy male outfits, if only so i could roll a human male and dance around in SW like a douche bag.
i think some people have to realize that blizzard probably wasn't expecting to have 10 million players, even if only 10% are female (honestly, i think there's more) that means 1 million players are female, or more. so i think they made the slutty looking outfits because they figured the game wouldn't get so big and mainstream and would mostly have a following of guys, and i (a guy) don't really mind the slutty looking outfits :> unless I'm playing a warrior or paladin, then its kinda weird. so yea, the game was made by guys, for what they expected to be other guys. not saying thats alright, or that they shouldnt fix the modesty issue.
also if you look at the concept art and just general warcraft art there is, females are usually portrayed wearing less than modest armor
Cari Jul 13th 2008 10:48AM
That's why I play a gnome.
Nathan Jul 13th 2008 7:37PM
I can definately understand about Pants, but can't you craft or purchase shirts from a tailor that cover up the entire top torso area?
Evie Jul 13th 2008 11:53PM
Of course we *could*, but we shouldn't have to do that. I'm no prude or anything, I just think that if a piece of armor is going to be all skimpy and revealing on a female toon it should be just as revealing on a male toon. That I would need to spend extra time/resources to cover up what is already covered on the other gender wearing the same armor is, to me, unfair and annoying. I still wear the best armor I can afford no matter what it looks like and usually without a shirt under it, but the double standard does bug me.
sezmra Jul 12th 2008 11:43AM
Hmm, I've played MMOs since '97, I don't ever recall being "unaccepted" in any degree. I played The Realm, too, and often times *I* was helping to level guys.
nelfer Jul 12th 2008 11:49AM
I'm in one of the top guilds on our server. The guild leader is a woman, half of the class leaders are women and I'd say about 40% of the regular raiders are women.
I guess I've been lucky, cause I have never been verbally harassed by a guy in my current guild or any previous guild. Maybe it's because I make sure "must be over 18" is one of the guild requirements.
Aislinana Jul 12th 2008 11:49AM
I've never had a problem being a strong, assertive, fun-loving woman gamer at any time. We have a lot of girls in our giant alliance and trouble never seems to find me, despite being friends with mostly guys.
I think a lot of it has to do with the "strong" and "assertive" part.
I would like to see more female spokespeople for WoW, at least a variety. Not every woman playing WoW is a poker-playing pinup chick.
sezmra Jul 12th 2008 11:57AM
Thank you!
Tenchan Jul 12th 2008 1:56PM
This!
Nothing against this Jennicide, but female gamers must not not be only represented by boobalicious blonds. That's still sexism, just in a different way. (Ever seen those famous girl gamer squads? Yes, right there. Teehee, booby bounce.)
What I want to see getting public attention for example is the normal day to day mom. There sure seem to be a ton of those in the game if you follow the blogs and in game talks.
hoviboy Jul 12th 2008 12:00PM
"Male players "need to be more accepting of women ingame""
this is an outdated cliché, which isn't related to mmorpgs, unlike first person shooters
Starryknight Jul 12th 2008 12:59PM
Sorry but, outdated cliche? Check this if you honestly think that.
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=7475404078&sid=1