Are tanks the most drama prone?
My tanking corps rocks. They really do. I'm quite happy to be their officer representative. We all play our role as the meat shield very well, rarely do we miss a shield block in our rotation or forget to pop a health stone as healers make transitions in and out of the demon realm in Kalecgos. What is interesting about any tanking corps I've been apart of is the inevitable drama that comes up.Since I've been in a few different guilds with a few different tanking corps and this drama always seems to happen and happen the same way, I have to ask: are tanks the most drama prone?
It's best to define what drama actually is. Drama is any whining and moaning from anyone about things out of their control. If they complain about things in their control, well, then they just fail miserably and probably should spend some time outside to recenter themselves.
For instance, a tank complaining loudly that his healer always is the first to get constructs in Gorefiend and demanding that they get a soulstone before the fight even starts, is drama.
A tank complaining that they need healers X, Y, and Z, in the raid or else they won't do anything but auto-attack Illidan, is drama.
A tank complaining that they deserve extra guild repair money for their expensive plate armor, is drama. And since the tank is special, they also need their own rank to let everyone know this (but it's also practical because only they should be able to withdraw 300g a night in repair money).
A tank complaining that the ideal tanking group is not made up of a Shaman, a tree Druid, a Paladin, and a Warrior, but instead is made of up of 4 of their closest friends that they can QQ about the entire raid with, is drama.
A tank complaining that stance dancing is too much to do during Archimonde, and he wants fear wards and a shaman totem in his group so he doesn't have to do anything extra, is drama. And woe is the raid in which the tank isn't best friends with a shaman and a priest – that is a lot of drama (see above).
A tank complaining that the three new people that were taken to Illidan is okay, as long as they do not stand anywhere near them during the demon phase and cause extra splash damage, is drama.
A tank insisting that it's okay to AFK during phase 2 of Illidan, is drama. Especially when he's not the MT.
While the above is not an exhaustive list of what defines tank drama (and I'm sure you can come up with more), it is a least a good start that allows us to look into the dark inner depths of a tank's soul. But now we need to look at why the tanks get to be the center of attention (most of the time) in all this drama. And I think the reason is really quite simple.
Everything that happens in the raid eventually makes it back to the tank. And I do mean everything. If that shadow priest dies because she didn't hit 10,000 health (and we all know those that think 9,988 health is 'just as good' as 10,000), then the Paladin doesn't get enough mana, and by the end of the fight the paladin has gone afk for a few minutes while he regens his mana. The tank now has a reason to cry and cause drama.
I never see other classes cry as much as tanks. If a rogue dies the mages will just laugh at the rogue and make fun of him that he's not ranged. And like wise, if a mage dies the rogue will just laugh at the fact that the mage didn't get Ice Block off fast enough. But the tanks? The tanks will cry that it will take a few more seconds to down the boss now that the rogue or mage is dead.
Just another example in the long line of reasons why I believe tanks are the most drama prone.
It should be noted that I'm a prot warrior, lead my class, and have "complained" heavily over everything listed here. It might be said that I'm the most drama prone, but that's a little too self-defacing for me. Besides, all tanks have to have a good sense of humor about themselves.
Filed under: Druid, Paladin, Warrior, Analysis / Opinion, Humor, Raiding, Death Knight






Reader Comments (Page 1 of 4)
Xtazey Jul 13th 2008 2:18PM
Yup. All four of my endgame guilds have disbanded due to tanks being retarded for example: taking tier tokens so he can go dps a week later, getting res gear so he can do arena on a raidnight, and so on.
jester Jul 13th 2008 7:36PM
Oh lord... I list my tank QQ in order.
-Refused to raid Void Reaver because "he had to build his new computer that very same night"
-went away permanently "the cops took my computer because my roommate was downloading kiddie porn I odnt know when ill have it back"
-i dont want to OT on gruul, FU, im building more threat than the MT, if he wants to MT hell have to earn it. (thats me)
-Tanking... whaaaa.... im not at home so I cant swap gear sets out (me again)
-Let me do it I just reitemized my tank gear! (me.... again)
but, the most drama prone are the boyfriend/girlfriend couple. Its the worst
Jesse Jul 14th 2008 10:48AM
do tanks cause more drama? NO!
We just care more about tank drama because they're harder to replace...
DPS and Healz whine all the time, but we can easily tune them out.
Tansk whine and things get done!
gnoop Jul 14th 2008 12:18PM
You can replace heals easily, eh? Let me scroll through the list of recruitment threads....
Heals, heals, and more heals.
I see more recruitment for Boomkins than I see for tanks and I was trying to get a spot as a tank for a while. Guess what I am? Heals. The irony is, now that we need a Feral, I'm too well geared as a Resto.
red Jul 29th 2008 1:43PM
Your QQ post about QQing reminds me of the mage class. so no, tanks are the biggest whiners, mages still are. then, maybe tanks/hybrids
Ryanix-Arthas Jul 13th 2008 2:20PM
The tanks in my guild on Arthas are drama free. I raided with them up through the first few bosses in BT/MH before I retired and they're on Twins right now in Sunwell.
I don't think tanks tend to have a lot of drama in high end raiding because everyone NEEDS to let the tank gear up first for progression, so they are always amply rewarded for their efforts.
dan Jul 13th 2008 2:23PM
I'm by no means a guild hopper but I have been in a few guilds and I have to say 100% I've never seen any of these examples or anything close to it. In the guilds I'm in the tanks are routinely praised as being drama-free compared to the drama associated with healer burnout, toons swapping from one role to the next (how many of us have recruited a holy priest or paladin or resto shaman or drood only to see them swap to shadow, ret, etc. once they got in?), or the out and out whining and competitiveness of the dps classes (mages tirelessly whining about lock dps, locks quitting out of sheer boredom, etc.).
Adam, sounds like you're other fostering this sort of whining if you're in a leadership position guild in and guild out or you don't know how to sit a better atmosphere or suss out genuine complaints that are viable (why is it wrong that the tank cares if his healers aren't getting their regen? -- sounds like a smart, considerate, aware tank to me) from the ones that are rubbish.
Thauron Jul 13th 2008 2:34PM
I wouldn't be so sure to say tanks are the most drama-prone.
Rather, it may just be the weight carried by everything they say. If a tank complains or whines, they know full well people HAVE to at least listen to it.
If a DPS whines, people tell him to suck it up and move on. DPS is the most expendable role after all.
A healer is more likely to have his or her issue addressed. They are not less expendable than tanks in 5 and 10 mans, but there may be a few extra people waiting in the wings if they whine in a 25 man.
If a tank complains? Oh bugger, if we don't listen this whole raid night is a goner. If he leaves or refuses to tank, we're not gonna have another quality/geared tank for months!
It may more related to how much power they have and how they choose to abuse it. They cannot be thrown aside most of the time, where DPS is likely to if they don't smarten up, and the same may be said for healers in some situations.
The issue may be that they can whine and get away with it more than more desire to than the rogue who pulled aggro because the tank was half asleep.
Nizari Jul 13th 2008 2:59PM
I think you nailed it on the head here. It's the flip side of tanks being in such short supply; they end up thinking of themselves as this rare, valuable commodity that can complain in a way that would get a DPS a /gkick.
Healers can get like this also, but the fact that there are more potential healers out there (4 healing classes to 3 tanking classes) lessens it.
Aigarius Jul 13th 2008 6:23PM
We always keep 2-3 tanks that can, and sometimes do, become MT for the night. I think we have 6 people with tank gear set appropriate for MT in BT/MH and 4 for MT on Illidan (progression). The designated MT gets 'MT priority' on loot it is in our loot rules. No drama and tanks know that they are replacable and can be asked to sit or to equip DPS gear (or healing gear for druids and pallies) at any time.
Clevins Jul 13th 2008 2:35PM
Frankly, Adam, if this kind of stuff all occurred in my guild those tanks would have been kicked long before hitting BT. I'm sick of the 'I'm a tank, I'm special' crap. You chose to play a tank, yeah, you're needed... but you can't solo this stuff without us so either be part of the team or get off the team.
It's called leadership.
Orangecoke Jul 13th 2008 2:48PM
I play a DPS, a tank and a healer so I've kinda been on the receiving end of all varieties of drama. I feel like the most drama (read: whining and complaining) I've seen is from the healers first, and then....to be honest.....hunters :P
Sacktacular Jul 13th 2008 2:46PM
Not being sexist or anything, but I've had bad drama experiences with female holy priests. It just seems that a good chunk of them end up being needy attention-loving people, and they play the healer because deep down they know everyone needs a healer, but when another one shows is in the guild, jealousy reigns supreme. I actually had a holy priest quit the guild because ~ALL~ the spotlight wasn't on her. Don't get me wrong, I've heard of some serious tank drama, this is just my experience.
Bess Jul 13th 2008 6:33PM
I have had similar experiences with several female (but also a couple male) holy priests. Competative drama is no fun to witness at all. But they just seem to love it.
Stacy Jul 13th 2008 7:06PM
I've had that problem with female resto druids. I am a female healadin. One Kara run I ended up getting a couple upgrades (plate healing gear.. only paladin in the run.. they didn't want to DE it..)
Enter FemaleRestoDruid complaining about how I got "everything" and it wasn't fair.
Funny thing - the week before she'd gotten no less than 5 upgrades from Kara (she was severely undergeared but she was um... "special" to the raid leader so she got to come.) I cheered her on for every upgrade.
Had the same problem with a few other resto druids as well but eh.. Never really had many tank problems.
zappo Jul 14th 2008 9:23AM
A funny Q&A I once read went something like:
Q: I'm a woman and I find that my husband/bf/whatever spends too much time playing World of Warcraft and I feel neglected. What should I do?
A: Roll a priest and create "drama".
Jeremy Jul 13th 2008 2:51PM
Wow. Um, no.
Either we're extremely mature tanks in my guild, or you've just had bad luck.
Although, our long time main tank was known as no-nonsense, so that may have done a lot to mentor the right attitude in us. [He also muted everyone except the Raid Leader in vent; so that he wouldn't have to listen to everyone else whining and shooting off their mouth.]
Seidhkona Jul 13th 2008 3:26PM
@ Sacktacular;
Anytime you have to start a sentence with "Not being sexist or anything," you probably ARE being sexist. Your comments are a perfect example of that.
Heii Jul 13th 2008 3:27PM
I don't care if your a tank, DPS, or healer. If your causing drama, you get a warning. 3 warnings means you get /gkicked. Just because your a tank does not make you more special then a DPS or Healer. Don't like it? Don't cause drama or don't join the guild.
Heleth Jul 13th 2008 3:32PM
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