Not so much for the Horde

I've no doubt fooled all of you with my cunning use of the second person pronoun here (note: it was third person, genius), and... I didn't? You all knew I was talking about myself? Dang. Well, on with it: while I love my tauren warrior and have a blast playing my orc shaman, I really prefer Alliance over Horde. I personally have no difficulty leveling on one side or the other of the factional wall, but in general, I find the Horde quests can veer into unpleasant, even outright evil extremes that I don't like participating in. What's funny about this is, aside from a few quests I really don't like, I can't find any functional reason for my preference. I have met and played with good people on both factions, which is why I leveled two toons to 70 and another into his 60's over there (Consummate Vees, woo hoo!) and I really can't say that I prefer one faction's cities over the other. My two favorite races in the game are Tauren and Draenei, with Orcs and Humans as my second choices partially out of tradition and partially for stature reasons since I play warriors a lot.
I've tried to understand it by talking to players on both factions, and I generally get the same responses. Each faction seems to believe that the other faction is composed primarily of younger, unskilled players, despite the fact that almost all my guildmates on both sides are adults, often married, often with young children of their own. Each side can tell you about horrible gank festivals in lowbie cities they've experienced (and I've experienced it myself as a lowbie tauren trying to make it in Tarren Mill, not to mention having several 60+ horde come kill all my quest givers in Duskwood), immature behavior like /spit or what have you... none of these things seem pervasively unique to one faction. As far as I have been able to tell, the players are basiclaly the same horde or alliance.
To a certain degree i think my perspective comes from lore, and has been shaped as the lore has changed. I was always aware of the Draenei as Akama's people, the huddled refugees who ended up in Illidan's service after the orcs and the Burning Legion almost totally wiped them out, but with the revelation of their true origin as the last survivors of an uncorrupted Eredar race and the role the orcs played in their genocide (and it's clearly established in books such as Rise of the Horde that the draenei were nothing but good neighbors, if a touch aloof, for generations before the orcs turned on them) I went from slightly apathetic in my faction selection to outright pro-alliance. I was never very comfortable with playing the role of the people who came in through the Dark Portal to crush and destroy everything in their path, even if they have had their shamanistic reawakening. While Lord of the Clans went a long way towards making me interested in playing as an orc, Rise of the Horde went pretty far towards making me want to be a draenei.
I've been ribbed by friends and less politely accused by others who are less friendly of being blinded by my desire to play one of the 'good guys', and I'll admit to a small degree of that. I do like to play a hero. I don't want to do quests where I feel like what I'm doing is manifestly wrong: this is why I never took part in the Blightcaller questline. I see no reason for the Alliance to be invading Nathanos' home and trying to kill him, and so I never had the Gorewood Bow on any of my ally 60's before The Burning Crusade launched. My tauren had it, because I have no trouble with killing members of the Scarlet Crusade. To my eyes, it's not that I want to be a good guy so much as I want to be able, however much I realize it's just a game, to be able to justify my character's actions. They should seem plausible and even worthy to him, at the very least. This is why I can get into playing an orc or a tauren but not an undead, and my blood elf paladin is very definitely conflicted about his allegiances. (It was actually somewhat of a relief to me when Lady Liadrin made the pact with A'dal in lore, because now Vorpal can think of himself as a champion of his people and not a thief of power he doesn't deserve.) Sure, it's role playing, and it's a minor thing, I don't spend a lot of time worrying about it, but it does matter and it does enhance my gameplay. As a tauren warrior, I was mad when I ended up poisoning one of my own people because a forsaken apothecary lied to me, and worse, there was nothing I could do about it. I couldn't rip his bony head off and punt it down the streets of Undercity for the affront. (I imagine tauren anger to be much like an avalanche, once it gets going not much stands in its way.)
There's certainly heroism to be found on both factions... the Orcish struggle to reclaim their past honor in the face of their fall to the demonic bloodlust, the tauren attempting to help their allies while retaining their own culture, strained as it is by centaur incursions and their new settled way of life, the darkspear trolls attempt to turn away from human sacrifice and cannibalism, even the Forsaken can have a rough nobility about them. I still kind of hate blood elves, though. Every time I play my BE pally I feel dirty.
A lot of my friends feel just the opposite. Some of them just cannot stand to play Alliance. For some it's the usual stereotypes about alliance players, for some it's a hatred born from PvP experiences (strangely enough, whenever I'm in a battleground I tend to hate whoever the other side is) and for some the ally side quests lack the same dynamism. Some people find human zone quests (like the Defias/Stormwind ones) depressing in their banality and I had one friend who rerolled horde because he didn't like how Magni Bronzebeard's daughter ended up.
When Daniel mentioned his hope for an end to neutral factions and a heating up of the conflict between alliance and horde in the expansion, I realized then that despite my Horde characters and my friends Horde side, I'd forever fall on the alliance side of that factional divide. As an organization, I just don't like the horde. It's got two peoples I like, one I feel indifferent to, and two I really dislike. The Alliance has no one I dislike: I even think gnomes are pretty awesome and that seems to be the race most people who dislike the alliance hate the most. (Night Elves being #2, and frankly, of your elven PC choices they're far and away better in my mind.) Plus they have Draenei, and I'm still holding out hope to get to play Broken.
Filed under: Horde, Alliance, Analysis / Opinion, WoW Social Conventions, Virtual selves, Odds and ends, Lore, Factions






Reader Comments (Page 1 of 10)
NIck (Mal'ganis-H) Jul 15th 2008 1:11PM
Rossi..... NOOOOO say it aint so. haha
Nasgoul Jul 15th 2008 1:12PM
For the Alliance my brother in arms...
In the end, my friend.... things will be as they must be...a victory for the enemies of the Horde
For the Alliance
i am the nasgoul
Matthew Jul 15th 2008 1:10PM
I denounce any faction that asks me to stand by the side of a gnome and fight.
ropax Jul 16th 2008 7:01AM
No, not stand by a gnome...be a gnome. =)
mikejl Jul 15th 2008 1:12PM
Horde at heart here. I play a human in RL .. this is why I play an Orc and Forsaken in WoW.
Forsaken sees Gnomes in BG ..
"Grab them midgets and eat some alliance giblets"
turkeyspit Jul 15th 2008 1:31PM
"I play a human in RL .. this is why I play an Orc and Forsaken in WoW."
Win
Algorithm Jul 15th 2008 2:27PM
Yeah, I play a human in real life, too. It surprises people when I tell them in vent, but they usually get over it.
Anyway, given my past as a human, I have a soft spot in my heart for the faction that doesn't want to wipe humans out. You could call me racist if you like.
Radiophonic Jul 15th 2008 2:31PM
lol @ Algorithm
I have no soft spot in my heart for any faction that wants to wipe Orcs out. Argument = weak.
Hurode Jul 15th 2008 4:32PM
I play an undead in real life.
BRAAAAAAAAAINS
Eternalpayn Jul 15th 2008 5:08PM
I tried playing a Tauren Female one time IRL... didn't work out too well. :/ You win some, you lose some.
Soriel Angelfyre Jul 15th 2008 1:12PM
I have the opposite problem, although I have leveled characters on both sides of the game, I feel more attached to my horde characters than my alliance characters. I think its just the primal strength that most of the horde quests seem to have around them (as opposed to "I'm too lazy to take this letter to the dwarf 30 feet away...you do it") That and well...I've always had a thing for the undead...In roleplay I find personalities for them are easiest to come up with (the options of having one without a lower jaw for instance allow for such things as a "mute" character to be easily visualized...and allow for a nice backstory involving thier death)
Savant Jul 15th 2008 6:56PM
I'm the same way, I just couldn't get into the Alliance faction. In some ways, the develolper bias (that favors alliance) makes Horde all the more appealing since you feel like you are fighting as the underdog, which can be a desirable incentive.
Jeremy Jul 16th 2008 7:29PM
Developer bias *for* the Alliance??
Will of the Forsaken
Saelorn Jul 15th 2008 1:13PM
When Orgrimmar gets some paved streets, I might want to hang out there more.
Ironbuddah Jul 15th 2008 1:18PM
Although I prefer the Horde, I really enjoy leveling on the Alliance side. The Alliance quests have a storyline! I got bored with the Horde(I didn't mean for that to rhyme..)and decided to research the Alliance. I leveled a NE Rogue to 44 and I loved it.
The quests were easy, fast, and led to bigger quests and other things that went along with the lore of previous games and explains more about WoW and the things going on in the areas in which you quest.
My favorite quest atm, would have to be the quest when you fight the mini-lurker below. I had SO much fun bolting between cannons, and watching people smacking it, and helping me out. I only wish the Horde had quests like that.
Most of ours are, "I'm angry, go kill that thing/those things." "You did it, here's some gold, and armor, now go kill this stuff." It gets tiresome.
zappo Jul 15th 2008 1:31PM
Same here. I felt like getting away from people in game and finally rolled an alliance toon. Personally I sort of like the Horde "evilness". Notably in Neverwinter Nights I ALWAYS ended up being lawful evil so that's probably a personality thing.
As someone who isn't all that enamored with TBC due to crap stories associated with quests, I have to admit I am very much liking how the alliance progression plays out. Personally I rather liked many of the forsaken story lines. Many of the characters seem to want vengeance but always seem a bit saddened by what has happened to them. Even the cockroach vendor. Hopefully I will see a lot more story on the other side that can at least match them. I'm actually starting to appreciate the fact that I was missing half the game.
raverach Jul 15th 2008 1:17PM
Pre-BC I only played night elves as they seemed less corrupt less involved in shady deeds than other Alliance races. And post-BC I only play draenei because they are just "the" good guys as you wrote, if only a little fanatical for the Light (a Vindicator on Bloodmyst talking about wiping out blood elves and such). The Horde always felt too brutish and trying to hard to emphasize their toughness.
I'm waiting for someone to enlighten me as to why draenei would bother going to Northrend.
DarkRa Jul 15th 2008 1:18PM
While I'm a die hard Tauren player, I see your point. The Stonetalon Mountains Horde questline about killing Keepers of the Grove under the command of a member of the Shadow Council is especially disturbing.
But I wouldn't be so quick to give the hero badge to the Alliance...the naruu's profound duality (evil on death, holy in life) makes me question the way the Draenai present themselves.
And let's not forget, Staghelm is biding his time a long time now...
Onipono Jul 15th 2008 1:53PM
third person pronoun. Sorry it was bothering me.
Angel Jul 15th 2008 1:19PM
Great article. I myself am on the opposite end. I love my Draenei Shaman, but hate being on the Alliance. I sympathize with the Horde and if they would accept me (Hey Blizzard, how about a EQ2 Betrayal Quest, please?) I would join in a second.