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7-20-2008 @ 12:48AM
I hope they keep on track with trying to get ret raid viable. What I don't understand is why they're so weary of buffing ret paladins. They go and give rogues a cheat death proc that ended up being 99% dmg reduction and didn't fix it for a long time... but with pallies they don't even try to buff them.. well.. here's hoping for OP pallies someday.
7-20-2008 @ 12:57AM
As I said above with my little ogre test, it sure looks like I got a 50% DPS increase in the beta (more counting Avenging Wrath's changes, which I didn't use in the test)... I give mana to myself and those around me when I judge... I give health to myself and those around me when I whirlwind (Divine Storm, it's a red-colored version of whirlwind)... I give haste to those around me, crit to those around me, 2% dmg to those around me... I have a genuine CC now, that's halfway between a sap and sheep... I think they DID try to do a lot to make Ret more raid viable. We'll see how much makes it through...
7-20-2008 @ 1:12AM
Protip: get a new guild.Ret is very raid viable. My guild uses one very successfully, and we're on Sunwell now.
7-20-2008 @ 1:27AM
You only talked about it briefly.... but Repetance is a HUGE change... Retadins can now CC!It's like a Sap, (last 1 min, but usable in combat). Retadins will now be way more pheasable in 5 mans that require a lot of CC.
Right, but you only use one. How many rogues are you using?Ret is only raid viable today because of CS refreshing judgements. These buffs make Ret raid-vaible on the strength of its DPS alone, and when you add in all the new utility, you'll want more than one.
7-20-2008 @ 5:51AM
The problem has never been that Ret doesn't have raid utility. The problem is that you never need more than one Ret paladin. And they don't seem to have fixed that with these new talents.Actually with auras going raid wide, less blessings, and the elimination of sanctity aura they seem to have compounded the problem. There will still only be one ret paladin per guild. Maybe a second as a backup.
7-20-2008 @ 4:29AM
Well, it's the same with Enhancement shamans, and maybe fury warriors. Why is there a demand for more than one slot for a ret pally? There's not much ret paladins out there anyway, as compared to rogues (who can only spec for DPS anyway). So I suppose my previous comment still applies - find another guild - one that still doesn't have a ret paladin in their ranks (ask Nihilum)
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