Ask a Lore Nerd: Orc plus demon blood equals hero

Mizunie asks a couple of questions...
On the WotLK website, the designers talk about the "Scarlet Onslaught." Who are they and where did they come from?
The Scarlet Onslaught is the refounding of the Scarlet Crusade. Sometime after the events in Stratholme, Abbendis has taken complete command of the Crusade with a new band of lackies. She believes the Light has beckoned her to Northrend, so she rounds up every Crusader she has left and loads them on boats under the flag of the Scarlet Onslaught. There's other details to accompany this in Wrath, but they're way too cool for me to spoil this early.
Do we know anything on good ol' Deathwing?
Nope, not yet. I haven't seen much yet. It's possible we'll learn more in the Chamber of the Aspects raid zone coming in Wrath. It's been revealed that a Black Dragon is the boss inside there, though we don't know the details surrounding it yet.
Eternalpayn asks...
If Blood Elves are mana-addicted High Elves, then how do Blood Elf Rogues fit into lore?
Hey, even their Rogues have Mana Tap. They still eat mana up with a spoon. They just don't use it for spellcasting, no big deal.
Hunshin asked...
Does Thori'dal have any lore background (such as the Blades of Azzinoth, Atiesh, Sulfuras or Thunderfury) or was it just added to please cheap hunters?
We don't really know! It's possible Thori'dal is the Sunstrider Longbow that was a Sunstrider heirloom for quite awhile, but that was supposedly gifted to Sylvanas. I still say it's possible they're the same weapon, perhaps Sylvanas lost it after she became a Dark Ranger, but that's purely guesswork on my part. I just think they fit because of the Elven design of the bow and the name "The Star's Fury." That sounds pretty in line with the Sunstrider motif, but that's pretty much the entire motif of the Sunwell Plateau.
Most likely, there's no real lore for it. I just happen to like my near-baseless theory. It's a shame if there's no story for it, though. There's some pretty cool bows in the lore they could've used, like Frostfathom.
Greta asks...
What's the story behind the Undead fellow in the secret room of the Scarlet Monastery Cathedral?
That's High Inquisitor Fairbanks. He was there with Highlord Alexandros Mograine when the Highlord's son betrayed him and handed him over to the Scourge. Fairbanks 'survived' the attack, and 'hid' beneath a pile of rotting corpses to 'live' another day. He found his way back to the Monastery after all was said and done, to warn everyone of Renault Mograine's betrayal. The Scarlets cut him down and threw him in a closet so nobody would know. Turns out he became Undead and has been locked in there this whole time! Poor fellow.
jedunster asks...
Whatever happened to Mannoroth? I know he was sucked back into the portal during the Sundering, but what happened to him after that?
Oh, not much, really. He let some Orcs drink his blood and they turned into a fel-tainted army that stormed Azeroth, pillaged their towns, killed some babies, razed some place called Stormwind. Then a fella named Grom Hellscream killed him. Everyday stuff, really.
J.A.S. asks...
So if the Elves evolved from Trolls, and the Dwarves and Gnomes evolved from Earthen, then where did Humans come from?
The Vrykul.
PimpyMcPimp (sigh) asks...
What is that slug thing(the thing spewing green gunk into the Apothecary place) in Undercity and where did the Forsaken get it?
I have no idea but it freaks me the hell out.
gameleon asks...
How did the Burning Steppes/Searing Gorge look before it was burned down by Ragnaros? What was it called?
Those were all part of the Redridge Mountains. It was, of course, mountainous with a heaping helping of lush forests. Ragnaros' arrival actually completely melted some mountains, and naturally all of the forests were torched utterly. Blackrock Mountain wasn't a volcano until Ragnaros came around, either.
I've heard that Duskwood was a part of Elwynn Forest in the past. Why has it turned into such a dark and scary place?
It seems that there are a few things at work here, and we don't really know just how related they are. The one thing we are sure of is the origin of the worgen, which you can read about in our Know Your Lore on the Scythe of Elune. There are other things like Necromancers at work at Raven Hill, and a pedophile (with a totally overrated questline) hanging out in the hills.
The Necromancer Morbent Fel seems to be the source of most, if not all, of the undead in Duskwood. He doesn't seem to be Scourge-aligned (though his name was a random name for the Lich unit in Warcraft III), there's really nothing that states such, but it's definitely a possibility. It just seems likely that after the disasters at Karazhan and the summoning of the Worgen, things took a crap and the doom and gloom types took over.
Nicholas wrote in to ask...
I stop by Nighthaven in Moonglade fairly often, and over the last two days it seems like the area has been in chaos. There are a ton of elite guards running patrols, and yesterday, I even ported in to see a very nasty looking dragon named Eranikus floating overhead while a bunch of Nightmares did battle with the guards. What's the deal?
That's a quest event for the Scepter of the Shifting Sands. Its a server-wide, player-triggered event to purify Eranikus, a Green Dragon, and retrieve a shard of the Scepter from him. He needs to be purified because he has been overtaken by the Nightmare, a vague evil thing within the Emerald Dream. It's an awesome event if you have enough people there for it, and people aren't being jerks and killing Remulos.
Leoto of Eitrigg asks...
I am an altoholic. I recently created an Orc Rogue and I noticed that the organization that give him his class quests is called the Shattered Hand. While leveling my Warlock alt in Hellfire Peninsula I noticed that the majority of the Fel Orcs there are called the Shattered Hand. Are these two organizations in fact one in the same or just a happy coincidence? Also with Magtheridon and Illidan dead what does that mean for the Fel Orcs of Outland? Will they eventually be cured of their curse like Azerothian Orcs or did they basically get wiped out along with those bosses?
Both Shattered Hands are more or less the same organization, except it branched at some point in time. The Orcs have a tendency to uphold their 'hero' worship to extreme lengths, even long after they've come to realize their 'hero' was not heroic whatsoever. The Shattered Hand was an Orc clan led by Kargath Bladefist that earned its name through its practices of self-mutilation. They quite literally shattered their hands and removed it. Why? To attach something like the Bladefist to themselves.
There are still places named after Kargath Bladefist, such as... well, Kargath and Bladefist Bay. Most orcs seems pretty content to continue regarding him and the Shattered Hand as heroes despite the fact that the Bladefist himself and most of his kin went running back to gorge themselves on Demon Blood. Heck, the guy that asks you to kill him sounds like he regrets killing the guy that would love to hand them all over to a demon of some sort again.
Whether the current Fel Orcs will be free now that Magtheridon is dead... who knows, really. They certainly can't make any more of them, but from wandering around the Blood Furnace it looks like they might be making new Fel Orcs from the ground up with demon blood, rather than making them drink it. That's just my thought, though. It's possible that in the storyline the Fel Orcs have died or became 'pure.'
That's all for today, folks. I'll be back next week to answer more of your questions, so if you've got 'em, post em!
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Reader Comments (Page 1 of 3)
ironblade Aug 2nd 2008 7:38PM
the big wirlpool in the middle of azeroth what is it exactly and what made it?
Diela Aug 2nd 2008 8:18PM
That's the Maelstrom, and it was created as a result of the Well of Eternity collapsing. The Highborne ended up becoming naga as a result and that's where their capital city is. Also, it's supposedly where Queen Azshara would be if she were alive (RPG says she is, but there's nothing in game to prove either case).
Hurode Aug 3rd 2008 12:47AM
That would be the Maelstrom, created during the Sundering.
http://www.wowwiki.com/Maelstrom
Suzaku Aug 3rd 2008 1:51AM
It's the Maelstrom. When the Well of Eternity imploded and the single continent was split into Kalimdor and what are now called the Eastern Kingdoms, it collapsed and took a large portion of the continent with it.
More importantly, it formed the Rift, a massive rift at the bottom of the newly formed ocean. It's so massive, in fact, that it exposed the core of the planet (the interior of Azeroth is comprised of a region known as the Elemental Plains, and its core is actually a "sun"). This heated the ocean and caused a massive storm, called the Maelstrom, which is so fierce that it prevents most travel. It's been raging for thousands of years, and hides many islands and Nazjatar, the naga capital.
It'll likely be the feature of an upcoming expansion.
skreeran Aug 3rd 2008 12:56PM
That's the Rift. It's what's left of the first Well of Eternity. ;)
Kanuris Aug 3rd 2008 6:49PM
The Maelstrom. Big massive storm caused when a few meddling Night Elves with a tiny disk poked the Well of Eternity.
Don't mess with giant founts of magic power.
Strahl Aug 5th 2008 2:06PM
That would be the Maelstrom. Created back when the Moonwell was destroyed and blasted apart Kalimdor into the world you see now. Blame Azshara for that one. ;)
Ikarus Aug 7th 2008 2:20PM
It's called the maelstrom. Basically a huge storm/swirling whirlpool of death caused by the sundering when the well of eternity was destoryed to keep the burning legion from invading
The Hammer Aug 2nd 2008 7:38PM
Whenever I see Fairbanks, I'm always compelled to type "SKELETONS IN YOUR CLOSET?" on party chat.
Much like my love of typing "How do they rise up, rise up, rise up? They rise arse up, arse up, arse up high!" when you down all the balcony mini-bosses in Sunken Temple.
Suzaku Aug 3rd 2008 1:51AM
She is. They gave plenty of info on her in the RPG, and she'll be the boss of a future expansion before long.
And there actually is evidence. I don't know if any is directly in WoW, but in WC3, Lady Vashj was sent to the surface world as a sort of ambassador on direct orders from Azshara.
Super Guest Man 9000 Aug 2nd 2008 8:46PM
"where did Humans come from?
The Vrykul."
Not sure how accurate that is. Humans came from the Azotha which the Vrykul might of come from as well.
http://www.wowwiki.com/Azotha
Alex Ziebart Aug 2nd 2008 8:48PM
According to Wrath, it is 100% accurate.
Super Guest Man 9000 Aug 2nd 2008 8:49PM
My bad then, not in the beta so I was basing this off currently lore and not future retacons.
Alex Ziebart Aug 2nd 2008 8:55PM
No problem. Blizzard loves them some retcons.
RogueJedi86 Aug 2nd 2008 9:42PM
With a bit of looking on wowwiki, I found the quest that implies the human-Vrykul connection. Spoilers of course:
http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?quest=11344
Jason Aug 3rd 2008 6:06AM
The Vrykul? No.
As I understand it both Vrykul, Dwarves and humans come from the Titans as creations. Not Vrykul->Human. In lore it is described for some humans to have the ability to Stoneform as well, clearly indicating they have the same makers.
I think you might want to recheck your answer.
Alex Ziebart Aug 3rd 2008 6:12AM
Sorry, Jason. I just did the quest in the Wrath beta for the second time. The Titans created the Vrykul. Humans were 'mutant' offspring of the Vrykul.
JBurg Aug 2nd 2008 9:06PM
To Pimpy Mcpimp:
The "slug thing" is clearly the tail end of the Slurm Queen. Now how the Forsaken or Arthas or whomever got her from Wormulon to the Undercity is beyond me.
Better question is why doesn't anybody ever reach down and fill a mug with refreshing Slurm.
Phil Aug 4th 2008 9:14AM
Who needs a mug? We just swim in it! :D
Pucelle Aug 2nd 2008 9:04PM
Elves, evolved from trolls?
That's really stretching it.
"In time, a primitive tribe of nocturnal humanoids cautiously made their way to the edges of the mesmerizing enchanted lake. The feral, nomadic humanoids, drawn by the Well's strange energies, built crude homes upon its tranquil shores. Over time, the Well's cosmic power affected the tribe, making them strong, wise, and virtually immortal. The tribe adopted the name Kaldorei, which meant "children of the stars" in their native tongue. To celebrate their budding society, they constructed great structures and temples around the lake's periphery."