@ILikePvPbuthatePvPers - Sure it did - Blizzard is not going to admit to you that some of us cancelled our accounts for LoTRO, but some of us did. AoC got some folks too - 40% came back, but 60% did not. What you have to understand is that no ONE game is going to overtake WoW in worldwide subscriptions. But SEVERAL existing and soon-to-come games, when put together, WILL take a sizeable chunk of WoW's Western sub numbers (North America and Western Europe). The West is WoW's oldest, and most fatigued, market. After spending nearly a year in beta in 2004 and then playing the live game for 3.5 years we finally just sort had enough of Blizzard's modus operandi.

@Caleb - Yeah, I think that a good number of the hard-core PvP players may certainly leave for WAR, or at least pay for both games simultaneously. After all, you only have to Arena for an hour or two a week, and unless you like raiding or faction grinding you have nothing else to do. Why not WAR? Nothing I have heard or seen about Lake Wintergrasp brings it in line with the large-scale PvP objectives in WAR. It is Halaa with siege engines and a reset timer.

At any rate those of us who actually liked the old honor ranking system will be powerfully attracted to WAR and its reknown system, and the constantly available RvR (presumably without 20-50% of the players in the RvR area afk humping a tree).

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