All the World's a Stage: Sacrificing spells for the story
All the World's a Stage returns today to shine a brutal but loving eye on the intricacies of roleplay. We do this by looking at the craft of roleplay itself, and the people who love it. We might not be ready for Jerry Springer, but we're pretty sure this week's column is going to have a little debate behind it. Michael Gray fills in this week for David Bowers, and talks about letting roleplay exclude some other forms of play in the World of Warcraft.We're not a big Guild. All told, we probably have about twenty to twenty five people who come online at various times to talk, chat, and play together. We have some structure, but we're mostly a motley of friends who hang out. Our raiding effort takes place because our raid leaders woke up one day and said "By Wrath of the Lich King, we're going to be able to progress in ten man content."
We're also a roleplay-ish kind of Guild. I say "ish" because we're not full immersion players. We have some light story notions. For example, I have the vague idea that our raid's main healer is the son of our raid's main tank -- that's mostly because they're the same human model, but one has light blonde hair, and the other has old, graying hair.
So, when we come across folks into the roleplay and immersion a little more than we are, we're sometimes not quite sure what to make of it.We're learning Zul'Aman, working to round the corner from "2 Animal Bosses, 1 timed" to "3 Animal Bosses down, 2 timed." We were fortunate to have a guest-star priest, a highly skilled player that I've known for years. I've seen her Druid, Rogue, and Priest with such great skill that I'd trust her to excel in any play environment.
So, there we were. In the heart of the Zul'Aman instance. Harrison Jones had just died, and we'd just applauded that fateful one-shot. We punked Eagle, cleared some trash, freed some frogs, and downed Nalorakk.
We rounded the corner from the Bear Avatar, and were on our way to do battle with the Dragonhawk avatar. There are these bad, bad (Leroy Brown level bad) mobs called Flame Casters. They once looked cross-eyed at our off-tank, and he instantly keeled over dead. So we decide to Mind Control each one, and let their friends rub 'em out. Sounded like a good plan. We ask the guest-star priest to MC the mob marked with a star.
"Wait, wait," my friend says. "I can't Mind Control."
"No, it's okay," I say. "I trust you -- you'll be fine."
"No, really," she says. "I never learned it."
"I'm not sure I understand," I say. "Is this a roleplay thing?"
"Yeah. Holy priests shouldn't use Shadow spells. I never learned it."
We were floored. And while the raid leader totally worked around the issue, it definitely put me in thought about whether we're truly devoted to our characters. I'm sure even now there's dozens of folks lining up to say "Raids aren't about roleplay, get over it! Just ignore that the character knows the spell. . ."
But, that's the problem. In the same way I have trouble buying that the Son of Illidan is a Level 1 Rogue, I'd have trouble ignoring the Blizzard-given stats I see about my character. And if that's the case, isn't it better -- if your goal is to be true to your story -- to avoid purchasing a genre-breaking spell in the first place?
Another friend of mine complains -- constantly -- about Engineering, and especially about the new bikes. In her version of Azeroth, the genre is pretty focused on sword-and-sorcery. The Steampunk Engineering pieces kind of break her out of that. As a result ... no Engineers exist anywhere among her half-million alts.
That''s pretty innocuous compared to ignoring an entire school of your character's spells, but I'm totally sold by the devotion to character and story shown by my Shadow-ignoring friends. And let's be honest -- if you're a healing priest in a raid, exactly how often are you asked to bust out Mind Control anyway? Heck, I doubt Mind Controlling those flame-throwing trolls is even the best way to do that corridor. So, really, that's not a big deal either.
I think a lot of us do this to some extent or another. Don't believe me? Do you turn your hat or cape off? I do. I can't stand the way they look on my dwarf. I just can't picture my burly, serious dwarf sporting a cape. Now, that's an aesthetic issue, but it's one that's purely driven by my desire for the character to adhere to my vision of it.
Why do you think so many Horde players were bothered by the addition of Blood Elves? The pretty, petite, and prim posers didn't adhere to their powerful and potent vision of the proper Horde. Their idea of genre, and the one being laid down by Blizzard, didn't match. If there were any feasible way to make it happen, do you think those upset Horde members would turn off Blood Elves?
So, yeah. I'm pretty sure everyone who cares at least a little about roleplaying, story, or the genre of their playtime censors their gaming experience to some degree. We might want to think that my Shadow-ignoring friend takes it a little far, but I think she's just showing more devotion to an ideal. It might not be my ideal, but I think if all had a little more gumption in life, the world might be a better place.
Even if it's just the World . . .of Warcraft.
Filed under: Priest, Analysis / Opinion, Virtual selves, RP, All the World's a Stage (Roleplaying)






Reader Comments (Page 1 of 4)
Wyn Aug 10th 2008 11:28PM
So I have to ask, does she ever use her Shadowfiend?
Chris Anthony Aug 10th 2008 11:33PM
It's a Shadow spell, so I'd assume not.
Wyn Aug 10th 2008 11:30PM
So I have to ask, does that mean she never uses her Shadowfiend?
Chris Anthony Aug 10th 2008 11:32PM
/pat
/sigh
/pity
Akido Aug 10th 2008 11:36PM
It seems perfectly plausible to me. I think that roleplayers already sacrifice a bit too much for their stories to make sense.
In the real, World of Warcraft isn't really built for Roleplayers. It's nice to see them adding some new stuff for role players in WotLK, though.
Krianna Aug 10th 2008 11:36PM
Trigger trolling idiots in-- oh, wait, post one!
Zman Aug 10th 2008 11:44PM
Wow Tweak, way to be. Way to be.
I guess in your mind, the crap rolls downhill, and RPers are one rung lower on the ladder than you, so its okay to demean them. Reality check: Go explain why you play wow to some chick you just met or some of your friends that don't play, assuming you have any. But then tell them, "No, it's cool. I'm not one of those role-playing losers."
Think about that while you are perusing a BLOG about a MMORPG. Unless you are just here to make fun of all the "losers". If that's the case, just quit WoW and find another way to feed your low self esteem. No one likes you or wants you around anyway.
Terence Aug 11th 2008 6:30AM
I roleplay and have a girlfriend and a job. I also run 5 miles a day. So I guess you're just 15 kinds of wrong.
Zeldaguard Aug 10th 2008 11:50PM
or it can be a fun time with friends
jerk
Eternalpayn Aug 10th 2008 11:56PM
Just downrate, don't feed. Damnit, just fed that damn thing.
Wildhammer Aug 11th 2008 12:10AM
I can understand the spell part- but with your anti-Engineer friend, I just think that's kind of silly. Engineering exists in the WarCraft universe, if you don't like it- then go play D&D. WarCraft is hardly pure s&s, there's a lot of steampunk and sci-fi stuff crammed in as well. It just bugs me when people choose to ignore something about a fantasy setting just because it doesn't fit their idea of swords & sorcery.
jbodar Aug 11th 2008 2:02AM
Seriously. You can't complain that things break your immersion when they are straight out of the source material.
I don't know, I've never been able to get into WoW RP, despite having regularly played tabletop RPGs for over 10 years. It just doesn't feel right and I have a hard time with all the paradox. So I play on a couple RP servers and do light RP, just to get away from tards like Tweak. People like him just refuse to understand that we don't "think it's real" anymore than Christian Bale thinks he's Batman.
KyoKenshin Aug 11th 2008 12:02AM
I'm the same way with my hunter. I refuse to use guns, never even trained them. My vision of a hunter when I started the character was an archer and that's what he'll stay. I think that as long as you can do your task in the raid RP all day long.
When your RP starts burdening others in the group(won't use your shadowfiend even though your mana can't sustain through the fight) then it becomes a problem.
Cyanea Aug 11th 2008 3:12AM
I don't get too immersive with my roleplay, but guns are the one rule I'm not going to break. My hunter's an Elf. They were born with bows in their hands.
Balgair Aug 11th 2008 3:57AM
Likewise with my hunter except he's a dwarf so only uses guns - bows are for elfs, not for him (somewhat annoying that there's very few good guns available outside of groups and he much prefers to solo)
I'm not actually on a RP server but several of my characters have little habits that they always stick to; one is dedicated to peace between the Alliance and horde so refuses to do PVP quests or participate in battlegrounds, another is a holy priest who refuses to spec more than 5 points into shadow even for soloing (although I don't take it as far as not even learning shadow spells, I'll admit!)
prudychick Aug 11th 2008 12:14AM
I've never done this as far as spells go but definitely with gear and emotes. For example...unless absolutely necessary (gear I received in Outland for questing) my Mage, Priest, and Lock only robes. I shuddered when they had to give up the robes for chest pieces that were better. I rejoiced when my Lock finally got a robe when approaching 70. My Priest is a Draenie. I can't stand to see her without a long cloak. It helps mask that she runs like a horse. But on the other hand my Rogues never would wear robes. My Rogues are a bit tom-boyish. Where as my other female toons curtsy...cause that's what ladies do...my Rogues bow.
Spectrose Aug 11th 2008 12:15AM
Ignoring class dynamics is fine and all... until it comes time to step into raids and such. Sure, you may be fine in some places, but when a mage doesn't believe in sheeping, because it's associated with animal cruelty or whatever, his usefulness has just went down for that particular dungeon.
Sure, if you can get a group together to form a guild who accepts that, go for it... But, don't get upset if you try to pug somewhere, and are kicked for your roleplay limitations.
But let's not forget how ridiculous ignoring class spells can get... A rogue who refuses to stealth, or a warlock who refuses to summon, is ignoring a core piece of their class. You might as well just roll something else. Few people would want to put up with you in pugs... but good luck finding people who will...
Lutz Aug 11th 2008 12:52PM
when you think about it, a group not tolerating the stubborness of this holypriest, does not necessarily have anything to do with them not liking RPers that are that dedicated.
maybe they are dedicated RPers as well, and decided IC that for something as challenging as raiding ZA, they only want to take characters who have no problem with tapping into every source of power available to them.
I mean even when strictly IC some chars might have a problem with a comrade (mind you, not the player of this comrade) that would not try everything to save his group from the gruesome trolls.
so IMO this hasnt necessarily to do with devoted RP vs. no so devoted RP.
Kellerune Aug 11th 2008 12:16AM
I have barely RPed in the game. The one time I RPed was my dwarf paladin who only went into battle drunk. Needless to say he was level 20 and a bit too expensive to keep. Maybe once I get a 70 on that server I can have some fun. But the spell thing...I guess its ok for the RP environment, but I wouldn't take it that far personally. My best friend loves RP, I just do it. I respect his opinion. And everyone should respect other people's opinions.
Arkhill Aug 11th 2008 12:21AM
Yeah, I would agree that having to adhere to the very strict unalterable game rules make WoW hard to truly role-play. Table top ftw!