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8-17-2008 @ 3:32PM
Lur said...
Actually, I think that according to lore, Forsaken and Scourge are the only ones who can BE Shadow Priests. In order to tap into The Shadow in that way, you have to be connected to it, in other words UNDEAD. By the same token, in lore, Undead Priests cannot cast spells powered by holy since they aren't connected to it. In fact, normal healing spells would harm them and they would need Dark Mending spells to heal themselves. The exception to this may be members of the Cult of the Damned, that receive their powers from the Lich King/Kel'Thuzad himself. The only known Hero class for Shadow Priests, the Shadow Ascendant, are Forsaken only in lore.
So basically, the only reason living player priests have access to shadow, and undead priests have access to holy is game mechanics.
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8-17-2008 @ 3:41PM
Trebond said...
False; Shadow priests, as was relayed in this very column, is mental magic. Not evil, undead, or demonic, simply mental. Draenei, Blood Elves, Forsaken, Humans, Dwarves, Night Elves, and Trolls can all be Shadow priests, whether they worship the Forgotten Shadow, are pissed at the Light, honor dark Loa, respect the dark face of Elune, or are Death Priests in-training to replace the loss of Auchidon.
As for Forsaken wielding the Light, they can and do. Most utilize the Shadow to do so but if you do the related quests it is up to interpretation whether or not it is lack of faith or ability that prevents the majority of Forsaken priests from channeling the Light without reservations. In some cases it might be fear of their brethren... but the Forsaken are not by definition evil nor does being evil automatically revoke your connection to the Light.
Shadow Priests are not evil, as was addressed in the column.
8-17-2008 @ 7:42PM
Lur said...
That is how I understand it according to the things I have read. I thought it was cult of the damned, but it appears to be the cult of the forgotten shadow. The following passages are taken from the horde players guide:
The Forgotten Shadow is a corrupted reinterpretation of the beliefs and traditions practiced by the Holy Light, and is the religion of the Forsaken. The religion of those who follow and use the shadow is called the Cult of Forgotten Shadow (aka Cult of the Forgotten Shadow).
(I don't see anything about mental magic or elves or a dark elune there... I see those that FOLLOW AND USE THE SHADOW are members of x organization.)
(As to Forsaken being able to wield the light, HPG 180:)
While the undead can no longer use the Holy Light, and have learned how to use the Shadow, they also preach that there must be a balance between Light and Shadow, and that they must learn the Light as well, but never forget they were born from the Shadow.
(A statement that seemingly contradicts itself... The undead can no longer use the holy light, but they must learn it? Which is where I got the idea Forsaken can't use the light, or can they... it's not quite clear.)
8-17-2008 @ 7:49PM
Eternalpayn said...
The way I always interpreted priests knowing, and teaching, shadow spells was that you have to know and understand the enemy (shadow) to defeat it. This is why the trainer teaches it too you. As for why you use it, well, sometimes it's just more effective to fight fire with fire. Just my non-lord-nerd opinion, though.