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8-18-2008 @ 6:32PM
You know, when you put it like that, the Horde really do come across as the villains, which to my view is correct. Now let's have a load of hordies spouting the same claptrap about being possessed or misunderstood or how it's all the humans' fault for having Thrall as a slave or something.
8-18-2008 @ 6:39PM
Trust me, wait until he shows the horde side. The story is written from a human's perspective, which is supposed to make the Horde look bad. The story of the Horde is meant to make the Alliance look bad.
8-18-2008 @ 8:29PM
The Horde used to be the villains. They were other the demonic blood haze by the Legion.So yes, the Horde look like the bad guys in the history of WoW because they were! But it all changed after the Second War.
8-19-2008 @ 12:26AM
Yep. It's all about perspective. I figure the average human wouldn't know about the "Old Horde" and the "New Horde" and all... to them orcs are just orcs -- a human might say, "Back when I was a kid, orcs used to be real vicious and nasty, but we beat 'em down and taught 'em a lesson! Now they're much tamer. I heard they pray to rocks and ponds and stuff."Who's going to tell them differently?
8-19-2008 @ 1:51AM
@ David Bowers comment: Yeah, but even the humans didn't trust that the orcs 'had been beaten down'. They were too suspicious of them. But they were pretty much right anyways. Some defend the "new horde" as if its something different. Sure there isn't the demonic blood thirst, but there might as well be. Take a look at any of the other things blizzard is producing that show's orc society and its pretty much the same thing without the rampaging across continents (with the exception of BGs). Even the slight changes they have are usually placed squarely on the shoulders of Thrall, who, if were ever killed would probably sink the Horde back into it's old ways. Perhaps the Trolls and Tauren may help bring them back into their old Shamanistic ways, or maybe even the blood elves' influence with something new, but for the time being there really isn't much difference between the old and new horde.ps. oh, and who's going to tell them differenty? The king of Stormwind, thats who. But I doubt he'd share your sentiment.
8-19-2008 @ 7:59AM
@AlcLOL the Old Horde would've eaten your face off. So yes, there's a major difference.
8-19-2008 @ 11:01AM
hehehe, "the trolls and taurens might bring them back to their shamanisic..." Aren't the trolls generally pretty nasty, deep down? barring a few exceptions?And things have pointed to the Orcs being generally pretty savage, and only by virture of Thrall being so singular have they avoided being "bad guys" I think the demonic haze made them much worse, but it was preying on a pre-existing condition, it seems.
8-20-2008 @ 3:16AM
@ ILikePvPbuthatePvPersBut the new horde would still do that.. unless you mean literally.. then the new horde would cook my face first to level their cooking skill (with the exception of the undead)..@ Fedwinmorr The difference between the different troll tribes seems to be very complicated. For example, Thrall actually hates the trolls that sided with the Horde in the second war. This is shown in the warcraft 3 orc prologue where he makes such statements and proceed to slaughter those trolls. The trolls he's currently allied with came from the Maelstrom in the middle of the world map. Their land was overrun with murlocs (eh?) and naga. The current trolls in the horde seem to be more shamanistic than voodoo users. The game does state that the orcs were much more bloodthirsty while under the demonic influence, however action wise, not much as changed (again with the exception of rampaging around Azeroth). Even among the orcs who are not trying to get back with the demons, many still want to see Thrall replaced with someone a bit more aggresive. To take a look at the rampaging in WoW, its actually only been like, 2 years. So their rampaging may change. Plus some would say that the BGs are an example of their rampaging (even AV, who the NPCs blame the dwarfs for is stretching it since the orcs homeland is actually draenor).
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