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8-21-2008 @ 7:47PM
Do you really think that Combat rogues really need much? They already totally outclass Assassination and Subtlety rogues in raids and 5 man. And they are just as effective in PvP due to their much higher, non-positional damage? If anything is done in the Combat tree, it ought to be to help dagger combat rogues compete with sword and mace rogues.It isn't as though Cut to the Chase or Hunger for Blood are particularly awesome either. As an Assassination/Mutilate rogue I currently plan to spend my 10 points in Dagger Specialization, Blade Twisting, and filling in higher up in the Assassination tree.
8-21-2008 @ 8:07PM
Nekoken,Combat rogues are not the choice for almost any arena rogue outside of combat maces and even then it is a small margin. By putting PvP fillers on the way to the end of the PvE tree they allow combat rogues to better defend themselves against ganking as they level up to 80, and also allow soloists who are not raiding to remain viable in more than one aspect of the game without a respec. Blizzard has said many times that they intend for every tree to be at least somewhat function, even if they're not the best at the job.Mutilate and sub are seeing a few PvE talents, and combat some PvP, I think its fairly obvious for most people to see that they're trying to encurage diversity, instead of every rogue respeccing before an arena match and then speccing back to combat for the rest of the week.Also look at warriors, their DPS as non-optimal pvp specs is going up, and blizzard said this is to help them be less than a free kill out in the world and also to keep playing a tank somewhat fun.I dunno about you, but when I want fun, I like being able to go have at it with pvp, not fly back to town and respec just to kill something.Combat in its state today does not do well against any class that can kite, and is only good on other melee classes and to an extent, hunters. What'll most likely happen is that a full combat build, especially with blade twisting being changed to work on all attacks instead of just yellow, silencing deadly throw becoming combat only and other such things, is that you'll see a more even split among rogue arena specs... in the end, that benefits us all, because each spec is good with a certain class, like mage shatter combos and mutilate, double melee or warlock rogue, every spec will have its place depending on your team makeup.I'm extremely happy I wont have to respec twice a week, or more if I wanted to run battle grounds. Hell, if it sucks that bad... there are a lot of combat / assassination hybrids you could use for pure PvE dps, quite a few of them look VERY promising, even if they don't incorperate any of our new lackluster gold star abilities.
8-21-2008 @ 8:09PM
Also nekoken,I forgot to comment on non-posistional damage. I'd consider being in range a posistion, and I think shadowstep rogues have a huge advantage over combat in that regard, and last time I checked, shadowstep hemo is a sub build, and is non-posistional.
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