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8-29-2008 @ 2:16PM
WAR's going to rape WoW of its PvP center.... The Scenarios (BGs) and RvR (World PvP) are more engaging than what WoW has to offer.The only people who're going to be sticking with WoW are the raiding community, maybe the casual non-PvPers and your eSport monkeys.Even with the amount of content that was gutted for release (in theory, it will be added and that actually gives Mythic things to focus on per content patch, instead of WoW's WHOPPING 2 PATCH A YEAR cycle), the game is very playable and very enjoyable.The fact that tanks have support abilities and player collision exists adds a new dynamic to the game, where to succeed you actually have to overpower a tank and healer (which is doable) to obtain goals. I played a Chosen during the PW weekend and holding a bridge against 7 people was awesome. They eventually wore me down, but that's not the point... time was bought.If anything, WAR is going to force WoW to rethink its PvP approach. No offense, but arenas are retarded.
8-29-2008 @ 2:28PM
I wonder if its considered okay to say that I hope exactly that happens, because I agree: arenas are retarded.Of course I say that as a raider who wants a PvE focused game, and not World of Arenacraft. If all the PvP vanished from WoW tomorrow, I'd be happy.
8-29-2008 @ 2:43PM
So what you're saying is that WAR is going to take every aspect I dislike about WoW (PvP asshattery and factionalism) and build an ENTIRE GAME around it?And then the worst parts of the WoW community (PvP asshattery and factionalism) are going to leave and go to War?Thanks Mythic, for making WoW a better place.
8-29-2008 @ 3:22PM
No, actually. If you read up on WAR, there is no PvP ass-hattery / griefing.One of WAR's founding principles is the Chicken Mechanic. If you attack players in a zone that is low level in comparison to you, you are turned into a chicken with 10 HP and doing 1 damage per hit.WAR, as I saw it, had no reason to send you back to the level 1-10 areas once you're 40, at least to PvP.
8-29-2008 @ 4:21PM
WAR is playable, yes, but it is going to launch in an unfinished state. There were still glaring bugs to fix at the end of the preview weekend and shortly thereafter it was declared the game had gone gold...WAR is going to be another in a long line of rushed releases that will suffer as a consequence. It's a shame because pushing it back just one or two more months would have resulted in a much better product.But I'm sure EA know what they're doing... :-|
8-29-2008 @ 5:58PM
Mythor, no MMO launches in a completed state, I mean did you play WoW when it first came out?One could argue that no MMO is ever truly completed.Were there bugs during the "Preview Weekend", yes there was. But I have to say, it's running much more smoothly than the WotLK beta, where Northrend crashes every 20 minutes. I would be a fool to judge the game based on that.I think Mythic made a mistake calling it a "Preview Weekend", when it was in fact the closed beta stress test.Open Beta is on the 7th, if they've addressed the issues that arose during the "Preview Weekend" by then, I'll have quite a bit of faith that Mythic can iron out the early MMO bugs in the coming months.
8-29-2008 @ 6:02PM
Speaking of the preview weekend, here's a Developer's reply to the issues that arose during.http://www.warhammeralliance.com/forums/showthread.php?t=67557
8-29-2008 @ 6:12PM
I think the difference is that now, no MMO can afford to release unfinished. It's going up against a pre-established juggernaut. It's going to be difficult to draw in players with the promise and great ideas the game has if it doesn't work, because the proven and polished WoW is sitting just 20 dollars away. They need to make sure WAR compares in terms of polish at release or they won't make it.
8-29-2008 @ 9:21PM
"There were still glaring bugs to fix at the end of the preview weekend and shortly thereafter it was declared the game had gone gold..."Until 2 months ago, WAR was considered to be a piece of crap that wasn't going to be worth playing.2-ish months ago, Mythic released a new version of the game client that was far, FAR superior to their previous versions of the game.I honestly feel like Mythic can get this game ready for a good release. They'll look at the biggest complaints from Preview Weekend and Open Beta and get them fixed ASAP.Hell, if you look around on Warhammer Alliance forums, you'll notice that there are a couple of dev posts saying just that. "We've listened to your main complaints, and we're working on getting them fixed for release." Things like pathing, animations, graphical issues, even the amount of rewards from public quests.
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