Oh, what fresh hell is this?
Teech from Cenarion Circle penned a brief note on the forums today about the utter agony of farming Timbermaw Hold reputation at level 70. It seems like a lot of people are revisiting this particular rep grind in the interest of obtaining "The Diplomat" title and Achievement in Wrath, for which you need to be Exalted with Sporereggar, the Timbermaw, and the Mag'har/Kurenai. I'm giving some thought to doing it myself because I've already gotten to exalted with Sporereggar and the Mag'har on my main, but Timbermaw is...something else entirely. As a matter of fact, Timbermaw makes no sense. I can understand getting a Diplomat title for being an Alliance or Horde liasion to the embattled peoples of Outland no matter how bad their sense of tabard design, but someone's going to have to explain to me how committing genocide on behalf of a pissed-off subgroup of bears in loincloths does anything to advance the cause of diplomacy in Azeroth.
Why are we so willing to believe the story being peddled by the first furbolg we see in Felwood? For all we know there's nothing wrong with the other furbolg tribes that some micro-lending couldn't cure. And let's face, it, there are other factions in the game for whom both the Alliance and Horde would be much better served by maintaining close diplomatic ties. Take the Consortium, for example. They ask you to lay waste to their colleagues all the time, but at least everyone concerned makes a buck off of it. What do the Timbermaw have to offer but a tunnel that you can fly over? Isn't the national interest of the Horde or Alliance better served by pursuing ties to factions with lots of money or weapons, or at least a massive grudge against things we already hate, rather than involving ourselves in some pointless internecine spat among NPC's whose death animation makes me squirm?
Yeah, I might just be mad I have to kill so many of them. I'll grant that the dubious honor of most legendarily awful rep grind of all time still seems to belong to the Wintersaber Trainers (although the Cenarion Circle is also getting a lot of grief in the thread), but at least the Trainers' rep isn't linked to an amusingly ironic new title. Now if you'll pardon me, I have to go slaughter another several dozen bear men in the interests of social justice for...I'm not sure. Other bears who claim it's the right thing to do. But I get something out of it anyhow, and that makes me an ambassadorial hero.
Why are we so willing to believe the story being peddled by the first furbolg we see in Felwood? For all we know there's nothing wrong with the other furbolg tribes that some micro-lending couldn't cure. And let's face, it, there are other factions in the game for whom both the Alliance and Horde would be much better served by maintaining close diplomatic ties. Take the Consortium, for example. They ask you to lay waste to their colleagues all the time, but at least everyone concerned makes a buck off of it. What do the Timbermaw have to offer but a tunnel that you can fly over? Isn't the national interest of the Horde or Alliance better served by pursuing ties to factions with lots of money or weapons, or at least a massive grudge against things we already hate, rather than involving ourselves in some pointless internecine spat among NPC's whose death animation makes me squirm?
Yeah, I might just be mad I have to kill so many of them. I'll grant that the dubious honor of most legendarily awful rep grind of all time still seems to belong to the Wintersaber Trainers (although the Cenarion Circle is also getting a lot of grief in the thread), but at least the Trainers' rep isn't linked to an amusingly ironic new title. Now if you'll pardon me, I have to go slaughter another several dozen bear men in the interests of social justice for...I'm not sure. Other bears who claim it's the right thing to do. But I get something out of it anyhow, and that makes me an ambassadorial hero.
Filed under: Analysis / Opinion, Expansions, Humor, The Burning Crusade, Wrath of the Lich King, Achievements, Horde, Alliance







Reader Comments (Page 1 of 4)
Groth Sep 10th 2008 8:07PM
I dinged exalted today, and I never ever want to see another furbolg. Ever.
Its a nice way to grind runecloth though!
As for why, the Timbermaw are paranoid about trusting outsiders, so your diplomacy skills would be tested... of course by diplomacy I mean your patience killing near endless numbers of Deadwood and Winterspring furbolgs!
Ryan Sep 10th 2008 8:47PM
I hit Exalted last night, funny that they decided to put this article up now... I guess a lot of people really ARE doing this grind.
GormanGhaste Sep 10th 2008 9:17PM
Why Timbermaw?
Once you complete the quest chain that opens up at exalted, you get to act as a Timbermaw diplomat to the dwarves in Ironforge. Seems perfect to me.
Ryan Sep 10th 2008 10:51PM
Or in my case, Thrall in Orgrimmar.
Cliffrunner Sep 10th 2008 8:07PM
thank god im already revered with Timbermaw
=D
Blake Sep 11th 2008 11:25AM
Exactly. Now only if they'd add another title for having 20 or more exalted factions. Then people would get really upset (and I'd be really happy). wowtid.com
Joe Sep 10th 2008 8:09PM
Simple. Blizzard needs to keep creating time sinks to keep that $15 a month rolling in.
Dude Sep 10th 2008 10:00PM
You do realize that Blizzard makes more money if they DON'T keep you grinding for hours? That's why daily quests are such genius. They keep you subscribing without encouraging you to stay logged in for more than an hour a day, thus saving server wear and tear.
The ideal subscriber is one who never logs in, not one who stays logged in all the time grinding rep.
Lemons Sep 11th 2008 5:11PM
Server wear and tear? wait, server wear...and tear? yeah because every time someone stays logged on for more than 5 hours a capacitor explodes and a crack team of technicians run to replace it.
You're an idiot and Joe up there is totally right. You're kidding yourself if you think that wow wasn't designed to take a lot of time.
Zuldim Sep 10th 2008 8:09PM
I intend to do this grind.. eventually.. I'm honored with mag'har, exalted with sporregar and.. friendly.. with timbermaw...
QQ
Heilig Sep 10th 2008 8:12PM
"Why are we so willing to believe the story being peddled by the first furbolg we see in Felwood? For all we know there's nothing wrong with the other furbolg tribes that some micro-lending couldn't cure."
Because the Winterfall tribe is being controlled by a demon maybe?
http://www.wowhead.com/?quest=8481
Allison Robert Sep 10th 2008 8:33PM
Yes...yes...that's exactly what they *want* us to think.
elprogramer Sep 10th 2008 10:35PM
That, and both the Horde and Alliance are trying to recruit the Furbolgs into their factions.
Roanish Sep 11th 2008 2:08AM
If the Original poster of this article had bothered to pay attention to the Winterfall furbolg questline whilst leveling in this area, they would know the reasons why we don't like these particular furbolgs (but we adore others).
Kaiva Sep 10th 2008 8:19PM
Tally one point for BRK's arguement of Achievements not being a fun addition to the game...
and I quote, "Yeah, I might just be mad I have to kill so many of them."
Notice the word "have".
Allison Robert Sep 10th 2008 8:25PM
Farming Timbermaw rep is likely to be pretty hellish, but it's another opportunity to make Sporereggar rep useful. Well...less useless. For the brave and determined Sporelings! May their ugly banner continue to fly high!
Zep Sep 10th 2008 8:16PM
Lots of links to Teech's armory, but none to the forum post. Fix?
Allison Robert Sep 10th 2008 8:18PM
Fixed! It made it into the source link at the bottom but not on the top, sorry about that!
Jezal Sep 10th 2008 8:22PM
There is a link to the forum post. Did you think the link named 'source' at the bottom of the post was just there for show?
Hobbes Sep 10th 2008 8:23PM
Lots of stuff in WoW is ironic. You can gank people for "honor" -- what's up with that?