15 Minutes of Fame: Lean and mean with WoW
15 Minutes of Fame is our look at World of Warcraft players of all shapes and sizes – from the renowned to the relatively anonymous, the remarkable to the player next door. Tip us off to players you'd like to hear more about.Just a few weeks ago, we published a post about two guys who connected their treadmills to their computers to find out just what it would be like to really take a little jog down the road from Shadowglen to Darnassus. (Hilarity ensued.) But that got us thinking ... What if these guys had actually kept playing that way, turning their WoW-time into a potent weight-loss strategy?
It turns out that quite a few players have done exactly that. Back in 2006, The Weight Lifter lost more than 40 pounds with two-hour "WarBiking" sessions on an exercise bike while playing WoW. ("If things got crazy -- as in, I ended up running for my life in the game -- I would end up peddling really fast on the bike. LOL, I know, kinda weird. You try it and see what you do!")
Then we talked to Althaea of Terror Nova-H on Eitrigg. Althaea has lost almost 100 pounds playing WoW from a treadmill, shrugging off a diagnosis of sleep apnea and creating an exercise routine that has definitely stuck. Find out how he put it all together, after the break.
So how did you come up with the idea of playing while you walked on the treadmill?I started playing WoW in October of 2005 as part of a doctoral program in educational technology, and I got hooked pretty quickly. I've been a gamer all my life (2KCommodore PET green screen FTW), but WoW was my first MMO. While the initial justification for WoW was to "research" virtual worlds for ways to make education more effective, I think we all know I was really there because I'm a gamer.
No overweight person wants to call themselves fat, but I've never been slender. Add into that the fact that my preferred playstyle of choice included a jar of Hot Tamales close at hand, and pretty quickly there were some excess calories that had to go somewhere. I think it's safe to say that I gained 60-70 pounds over the next year or so. My wife also began to complain more frequently about the volume of my snoring at night and that I stopped breathing as well.
I was resistant to the idea that I might have a problem but finally agreed to see a sleep specialist for a diagnosis. In December of 2006, they confirmed that I had severe sleep apnea and prescribed a CPAP machine. The lab tech also said with some dubiousness, "Well, you could try to lose some weight ..." Her tone was unconscious, I'm sure, but it was pretty clear that she'd seen so many patients in the sleep lab with apnea and weight issues to be pretty doubtful that anyone would make much of an attempt.
By that time, I'd been thinking about the treadmill for several months. I don't know whether it was before or after the apnea diagnosis, but I did come across some of the "everyday exercise" research that's going on at the Mayo Clinic. Basically, though, I'd been thinking that I only use a few left-hand key bindings for most of my WoW play, and I use the arrow keys for movement (I know, I know, L2P, blah blah blah) -- so why couldn't I rig up some sort of way to put a computer on a treadmill and play?
Actually, the biggest barrier to doing it was my fear of the reaction my wife would have. She's pretty anti-WoW anyhow, but the idea of something crazy like buying a treadmill to play WoW on -- yeah, I could imagine that conversation. After the apnea diagnosis, however, and trying to sleep with the CPAP (I never could successfully learn to sleep with the mask), I figured that whatever critique my wife was gonna dish out was going to be less painful than an early death due to heart attack. So I snuck out one afternoon and purchased a treadmill. If it sounds furtive, it was. Looking back, it seems stupidly silly, but these are the sort of things that factor into obesity -- it's a social as well as genetic condition.
Pre-diet, how much time did you spend playing WoW on a daily basis?
Two to three hours a day, mostly in the evenings.
Tell us about your physical treadmill setup. What did you use to put the whole rig together?The treadmill setup has gone through several iterations. The photos I've sent are of the current setup, and I haven't changed it much for the last nine months or so.
The setup consists of the following components:
- Proform Treadmil
- Dell 22-inch LCD Monitor
- Logitech wireless mouse and keyboard
- 2 super-cheapo speakers
- Dell Latitude D810 laptop
- Dell docking station
- Particleboard shelf -- about 4' x 9" x 1"
- Approximately 4 yards of 1-inch nylon webbing, and 2 plastic quick-release buckles
- Some industrial strength Velcro strips with adhesive backing
- A 3-foot bungee cord
My first setup didn't include the external monitor, speakers or keyboard. Instead, I just attached the shelf by drilling through it, feeding the webbing through the holes and then looping it around the treadmill handles. The quick-release buckles allow me to remove the shelf if I want to and to tighten the straps. Then I set my laptop on the shelf, attached a wireless mouse and started playing.
We take it things didn't exactly go smoothly from the very start.
As a first go, it worked pretty well, but gradually I began to see the significant flaw in this design: sweat. Yeah, excessive sweat and laptops = bad idea. First, there's issue of the liquid splashing around, and then there's the dried residue to deal with. I think I can leave it there -- I almost destroyed the laptop before moving to the next iteration of the design, but by then I'd proven the basic concept.
Happily, the Latitude laptops have an optional docking station, so I snagged one off eBay, as well as the monitor and speakers. As it turned out, when all of the equipment arrived and I leaned the monitor up on the treadmill, it was pretty much where I wanted to see it, mostly eye-level and near enough to the keyboard, too.
I mounted the speakers to the side of the treadmill using the sticky-backed Velcro and secured the monitor with a bungee cord so it wouldn't slip around. I set the docking station out of the "splash zone," did some primitive cable management to ensure nothing was hanging dangerously -- and that's pretty much where I am now. Sweat is still an issue for my keyboard and mouse. I'd recommend anyone considering the idea to buy the cheapest set they can and figure they'll probably replace them every year or so.
What's your workout regimen like?
When I started, I was struggling to walk for more than 2 miles, and it was taking almost an hour to do it. As I've lost weight and become more practiced at the routine, it's become much easier. I now assume I'll walk 3 miles every session, and on weekends, I try for 5 miles. I walk at 5 a.m., before work, because I found that walking at night left me too alert to fall asleep easily.
Has playing while you walk changed your in-game activities? Are there things you can't do now based on more wiggling, less concentration, etc.?
Yeah, there are some limits to what I find I can do comfortably on the treadmill. When I started, I set the treadmill to about 2.5 mph, which is a little faster than a saunter. Now I set it at about 3.2 mph. I've gone as high as 3.7, but that's too fast to be safe. Basically, you have to remember that walking is your first task and WoW is your second priority, because if you don't, you can get thrown from the treadmill and really hurt yourself. The treadmill I bought came with a variety of custom programs that would alter speed and incline, but I don't use any of those.
I don't raid or run heroics on the treadmill, because they require reaction times to be quick, and you can pretty much guarantee that just as the tank takes a crushing blow, you'll be trying to wipe sweat from your eyes. I've healed five-mans on regular, though. The Skyguard/Ogri'la/SSO dailies are perfect for the treadmill, very repetitive and regular. AV and EoTS are pretty good for the treadmill, but AB and WSG aren't, because they're too reactive. And lately I've been powerleveling some 'toons through SM by using the Refer-a-Friend and dual-boxing -- that's pretty good for the treadmill, too.
If a pull goes wrong and I'm trying to be sure the group recovers from pulling too many groups in Shadow Lab. I'll stop walking for a moment, then restart once we've recovered. After a while of doing it, you get a sense for when you gotta go for the emergency stop!
Do you use voice comms while playing? Has the treadmill affected that?
When I raid in the evenings, yeah, of course. On the treadmill, no, too much sweat, and most headsets have cables that wouldn't be safe. That said, if I'm in a group while I'm walking and they want to use Vent, I just play the sound out through the speakers and type back in my comments as needed.
What's your current WoW playstyle -- heavy raiding, PvP, casual raider, altaholic ...? Casual raider or altoholic. I ran MC and ZG pre-BC, and in TBC, my guild has allied with a couple others on Eitrigg to get into SSC and TK. Mostly we're farming Karazhan and ZA and waiting for WoLK to open up a bunch more 10-man instances.
What changes have you made to your lifestyle since you started losing weight?
I also went on a medically-supervised diet plan several months after I started on the treadmill, and I've been working under their guidance since then. Obviously, that's the other significant component of weight loss -- exercise and diet. I've completely had to change my eating habits and limit my caloric intake to about 1,800 calories a day.
Savvy readers will point out, "Well, yeah, 1,800 calories -- that's why he lost weight," and that'd be true. But if you tack on 300 to 500 calories burned on a daily basis, there's a little cushion to save me when I slip up and have a cookie (or 10) or go out to eat.
We hear you have friends who've been inspired to create similar setups. Can you tell us more about that?
People ask questions when you lose a lot of weight. Usually their reaction when I answer "I play video games on a treadmill" is "Yeah, right -- no, really..." After we get past that, some of them are intrigued. Three of my friends have constructed similar setups and use their treadmills to play WoW or do other things on a computer. One manages her eBay store postings on the treadmill.
We've all had somewhat different success and commitment to the idea, but I think we've all generally found that gaming or surfing on the treadmill is a little more intellectually stimulating than just walking or watching television. There's something about having to think actively that helps distract you from the monotony of straight exercise.
Will you be using your treadmill setup for the foreseeable future?
When I went in for my sleep apnea diagnosis in December 2006, I weighed in at 314 pounds. When I was asked by the diet doctor to set a goal for my weight lost, I arbitrarily said 225 and never thought it was likely that I'd get there. I met that about three months ago, and we reset my goal for 210. I've hit a plateau during the last couple months at about 220, so I'm still working to reach that goal.
Beyond that, though, yes, I intend to keep the setup for the long haul. Everyone has to figure out ways to stay active -- this one just happens to work really well for me.
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Reader Comments (Page 1 of 2)
Travy Sep 16th 2008 5:15PM
Pretty awesome, not that I need to lose weight or anything, but ever since I picked up WoW I have pretty much stopped taking my daily jogs, getting something like this set up would be awesome, and something I will look into. Kudos
niko Sep 16th 2008 5:16PM
nice work. He's to be commended on a creative way to exercise, esp. to combat sleep apnea. Very cool!
Naix Sep 16th 2008 5:20PM
Playing wow has made it more fun to restructure my workout routines. Much like restructuring my talent tree when I want to respec. For example I use the three tier system Endurance, Strength, and Fat loss. My workouts vary from a few weeks of strength to nothing but a deep fat loss build. Right now I am speced heavy into the Strength tree and found http://stronglifts.com/stronglifts-5x5-beginner-strength-training-program/ to be a very well put together resource.
Bench - 240
Over head Press - 90
Squat - 260
Pull ups (non weight assisted) - 6
.8 grams of protein per body LBS with every meal and eat 6 times a day.
Naix Sep 16th 2008 5:24PM
Oh yea I forgot to add I only workout with weights 3 days a week and jog 4 days a week. Each workout session only takes about 45 minutes. If you workout much longer you could over train.
vlad Sep 16th 2008 5:22PM
where is the before and after pictures of the weightloss. this is 15 minutes of fame for you, not your empty basement, dusty treadmill, tv tray and decorative wall camisole.
smo Sep 16th 2008 5:22PM
congrats on your success- keep it up.
Irshalthra Sep 16th 2008 5:25PM
Dude, nice - I myself have noticed a 15 lb weight GAIN since taking up wow a year ago...
Time to figure out something similar on my end me thinks.
Nice resetting of the priorities!
Aaron Sep 16th 2008 6:03PM
It's stuff like this that makes me love wowinsider. What a great idea! I'm now considering making myself one of these rigs, it doesn't seem too hard.
Eric Sep 16th 2008 6:35PM
Ditto here. Very interesting read.
kabshiel Sep 16th 2008 6:03PM
I'm impressed.
Oldbear Sep 16th 2008 6:04PM
I love the idea of playing while exercising, plus what the writer points out in the closing - to surf the web, watch TV, or any other computer based past-time from the treadmill... I'm going to have to save up for my own epic-threadmill mount.
Tickers Sep 16th 2008 6:21PM
Amazing, well done man. This is a really great idea, and is even cooler that you stuck with it!
here is a thought Sep 16th 2008 6:29PM
ok, so who is gonna pony up some money to invest in this guy starting his own biz building and selling these things?!?
with a little r&d i think it would not be that hard to make a very persp resilient setup; all tricked out and shipped to your door!
heck, even write an addon that shows your stats ingame or somesuch, full of win!
Galla Sep 16th 2008 6:37PM
Great idea!
Balius Sep 16th 2008 6:33PM
I used to do something similar. I had a wall-mounted television hooked up to my PS2, and played turn based RPGs because they took up a lot of time, didn't require much reaction ability, and kept me coming back.
A pair of gloves with the fingers cut out kept most of the sweat off the controller. A mouse and keyboard put the electronics beneath your hands, though, so I'm not sure if it'd be as useful.
Devilmachine Sep 16th 2008 6:51PM
That's awesome. If I had the room in my house to set something like this up, I so would!
But I prefer the idea of the laptop attached to a cycle machine though, I hate treadmills and the fear of being pulled backwards.
jurandr Sep 16th 2008 6:54PM
Now if only only there was an easier way for us to gain weight.
By 'us' I mean those of us who have an uber-high metabolism and can't gain weight no matter what we eat/do/exercise.
6'4" and 122 ibs V_V
david Sep 16th 2008 7:32PM
Same issue for me. I applaud the subject of the article, but I'm 5'7" and 110 pounds, and have the opposite problem. I need a mod so that when my toon eats and drinks, calories/fat/protein/etc. is delivered by I.V. or something.
Naix Sep 17th 2008 10:54AM
http://stronglifts.com/how-to-gain-weight-for-skinny-guys/
Eat Every 3 Hours. You need at least your body-weight in lbs x 20 kcal to gain weight. That’s 2700kcal/day if you’re 135lbs. If you have a physical job or move a lot, you’ll need even more. Eat every 3 hours.
* Breakfast. Get calories from the first hour. Read how to build the habit of eating breakfast and try these breakfast recipes.
* Lunch & Diner. Prepare double portions while making breakfast. 1 portion for work/school, 1 portion when you get back.
* Snacks. Mixed nuts, fruits, dried fruits, yogurt, cottage cheese, eggs, sandwiches, milk, protein shakes, …
* Post Workout. Physical activities burn calories. Eat post workout to get that energy back. Check this post workout shake recipe.
Suella Sep 16th 2008 7:04PM
I have been using a Schwin Air-dyne exercise bike with the handles removed, parked under my computer desk that's raised on cinderblocks.
I've been biking to MMORPGs for eight years now. I lost 35 pounds to my goal weight and maintain it with 3-5 biking sessions a week.
I hadn't seen a treadmill set up yet - looks pretty sweet! Keep on jogging!
:)