15 Minutes of Fame: Lean and mean with WoW
15 Minutes of Fame is our look at World of Warcraft players of all shapes and sizes – from the renowned to the relatively anonymous, the remarkable to the player next door. Tip us off to players you'd like to hear more about.Just a few weeks ago, we published a post about two guys who connected their treadmills to their computers to find out just what it would be like to really take a little jog down the road from Shadowglen to Darnassus. (Hilarity ensued.) But that got us thinking ... What if these guys had actually kept playing that way, turning their WoW-time into a potent weight-loss strategy?
It turns out that quite a few players have done exactly that. Back in 2006, The Weight Lifter lost more than 40 pounds with two-hour "WarBiking" sessions on an exercise bike while playing WoW. ("If things got crazy -- as in, I ended up running for my life in the game -- I would end up peddling really fast on the bike. LOL, I know, kinda weird. You try it and see what you do!")
Then we talked to Althaea of Terror Nova-H on Eitrigg. Althaea has lost almost 100 pounds playing WoW from a treadmill, shrugging off a diagnosis of sleep apnea and creating an exercise routine that has definitely stuck. Find out how he put it all together, after the break.
So how did you come up with the idea of playing while you walked on the treadmill?I started playing WoW in October of 2005 as part of a doctoral program in educational technology, and I got hooked pretty quickly. I've been a gamer all my life (2KCommodore PET green screen FTW), but WoW was my first MMO. While the initial justification for WoW was to "research" virtual worlds for ways to make education more effective, I think we all know I was really there because I'm a gamer.
No overweight person wants to call themselves fat, but I've never been slender. Add into that the fact that my preferred playstyle of choice included a jar of Hot Tamales close at hand, and pretty quickly there were some excess calories that had to go somewhere. I think it's safe to say that I gained 60-70 pounds over the next year or so. My wife also began to complain more frequently about the volume of my snoring at night and that I stopped breathing as well.
I was resistant to the idea that I might have a problem but finally agreed to see a sleep specialist for a diagnosis. In December of 2006, they confirmed that I had severe sleep apnea and prescribed a CPAP machine. The lab tech also said with some dubiousness, "Well, you could try to lose some weight ..." Her tone was unconscious, I'm sure, but it was pretty clear that she'd seen so many patients in the sleep lab with apnea and weight issues to be pretty doubtful that anyone would make much of an attempt.
By that time, I'd been thinking about the treadmill for several months. I don't know whether it was before or after the apnea diagnosis, but I did come across some of the "everyday exercise" research that's going on at the Mayo Clinic. Basically, though, I'd been thinking that I only use a few left-hand key bindings for most of my WoW play, and I use the arrow keys for movement (I know, I know, L2P, blah blah blah) -- so why couldn't I rig up some sort of way to put a computer on a treadmill and play?
Actually, the biggest barrier to doing it was my fear of the reaction my wife would have. She's pretty anti-WoW anyhow, but the idea of something crazy like buying a treadmill to play WoW on -- yeah, I could imagine that conversation. After the apnea diagnosis, however, and trying to sleep with the CPAP (I never could successfully learn to sleep with the mask), I figured that whatever critique my wife was gonna dish out was going to be less painful than an early death due to heart attack. So I snuck out one afternoon and purchased a treadmill. If it sounds furtive, it was. Looking back, it seems stupidly silly, but these are the sort of things that factor into obesity -- it's a social as well as genetic condition.
Pre-diet, how much time did you spend playing WoW on a daily basis?
Two to three hours a day, mostly in the evenings.
Tell us about your physical treadmill setup. What did you use to put the whole rig together?The treadmill setup has gone through several iterations. The photos I've sent are of the current setup, and I haven't changed it much for the last nine months or so.
The setup consists of the following components:
- Proform Treadmil
- Dell 22-inch LCD Monitor
- Logitech wireless mouse and keyboard
- 2 super-cheapo speakers
- Dell Latitude D810 laptop
- Dell docking station
- Particleboard shelf -- about 4' x 9" x 1"
- Approximately 4 yards of 1-inch nylon webbing, and 2 plastic quick-release buckles
- Some industrial strength Velcro strips with adhesive backing
- A 3-foot bungee cord
My first setup didn't include the external monitor, speakers or keyboard. Instead, I just attached the shelf by drilling through it, feeding the webbing through the holes and then looping it around the treadmill handles. The quick-release buckles allow me to remove the shelf if I want to and to tighten the straps. Then I set my laptop on the shelf, attached a wireless mouse and started playing.
We take it things didn't exactly go smoothly from the very start.
As a first go, it worked pretty well, but gradually I began to see the significant flaw in this design: sweat. Yeah, excessive sweat and laptops = bad idea. First, there's issue of the liquid splashing around, and then there's the dried residue to deal with. I think I can leave it there -- I almost destroyed the laptop before moving to the next iteration of the design, but by then I'd proven the basic concept.
Happily, the Latitude laptops have an optional docking station, so I snagged one off eBay, as well as the monitor and speakers. As it turned out, when all of the equipment arrived and I leaned the monitor up on the treadmill, it was pretty much where I wanted to see it, mostly eye-level and near enough to the keyboard, too.
I mounted the speakers to the side of the treadmill using the sticky-backed Velcro and secured the monitor with a bungee cord so it wouldn't slip around. I set the docking station out of the "splash zone," did some primitive cable management to ensure nothing was hanging dangerously -- and that's pretty much where I am now. Sweat is still an issue for my keyboard and mouse. I'd recommend anyone considering the idea to buy the cheapest set they can and figure they'll probably replace them every year or so.
What's your workout regimen like?
When I started, I was struggling to walk for more than 2 miles, and it was taking almost an hour to do it. As I've lost weight and become more practiced at the routine, it's become much easier. I now assume I'll walk 3 miles every session, and on weekends, I try for 5 miles. I walk at 5 a.m., before work, because I found that walking at night left me too alert to fall asleep easily.
Has playing while you walk changed your in-game activities? Are there things you can't do now based on more wiggling, less concentration, etc.?
Yeah, there are some limits to what I find I can do comfortably on the treadmill. When I started, I set the treadmill to about 2.5 mph, which is a little faster than a saunter. Now I set it at about 3.2 mph. I've gone as high as 3.7, but that's too fast to be safe. Basically, you have to remember that walking is your first task and WoW is your second priority, because if you don't, you can get thrown from the treadmill and really hurt yourself. The treadmill I bought came with a variety of custom programs that would alter speed and incline, but I don't use any of those.
I don't raid or run heroics on the treadmill, because they require reaction times to be quick, and you can pretty much guarantee that just as the tank takes a crushing blow, you'll be trying to wipe sweat from your eyes. I've healed five-mans on regular, though. The Skyguard/Ogri'la/SSO dailies are perfect for the treadmill, very repetitive and regular. AV and EoTS are pretty good for the treadmill, but AB and WSG aren't, because they're too reactive. And lately I've been powerleveling some 'toons through SM by using the Refer-a-Friend and dual-boxing -- that's pretty good for the treadmill, too.
If a pull goes wrong and I'm trying to be sure the group recovers from pulling too many groups in Shadow Lab. I'll stop walking for a moment, then restart once we've recovered. After a while of doing it, you get a sense for when you gotta go for the emergency stop!
Do you use voice comms while playing? Has the treadmill affected that?
When I raid in the evenings, yeah, of course. On the treadmill, no, too much sweat, and most headsets have cables that wouldn't be safe. That said, if I'm in a group while I'm walking and they want to use Vent, I just play the sound out through the speakers and type back in my comments as needed.
What's your current WoW playstyle -- heavy raiding, PvP, casual raider, altaholic ...? Casual raider or altoholic. I ran MC and ZG pre-BC, and in TBC, my guild has allied with a couple others on Eitrigg to get into SSC and TK. Mostly we're farming Karazhan and ZA and waiting for WoLK to open up a bunch more 10-man instances.
What changes have you made to your lifestyle since you started losing weight?
I also went on a medically-supervised diet plan several months after I started on the treadmill, and I've been working under their guidance since then. Obviously, that's the other significant component of weight loss -- exercise and diet. I've completely had to change my eating habits and limit my caloric intake to about 1,800 calories a day.
Savvy readers will point out, "Well, yeah, 1,800 calories -- that's why he lost weight," and that'd be true. But if you tack on 300 to 500 calories burned on a daily basis, there's a little cushion to save me when I slip up and have a cookie (or 10) or go out to eat.
We hear you have friends who've been inspired to create similar setups. Can you tell us more about that?
People ask questions when you lose a lot of weight. Usually their reaction when I answer "I play video games on a treadmill" is "Yeah, right -- no, really..." After we get past that, some of them are intrigued. Three of my friends have constructed similar setups and use their treadmills to play WoW or do other things on a computer. One manages her eBay store postings on the treadmill.
We've all had somewhat different success and commitment to the idea, but I think we've all generally found that gaming or surfing on the treadmill is a little more intellectually stimulating than just walking or watching television. There's something about having to think actively that helps distract you from the monotony of straight exercise.
Will you be using your treadmill setup for the foreseeable future?
When I went in for my sleep apnea diagnosis in December 2006, I weighed in at 314 pounds. When I was asked by the diet doctor to set a goal for my weight lost, I arbitrarily said 225 and never thought it was likely that I'd get there. I met that about three months ago, and we reset my goal for 210. I've hit a plateau during the last couple months at about 220, so I'm still working to reach that goal.
Beyond that, though, yes, I intend to keep the setup for the long haul. Everyone has to figure out ways to stay active -- this one just happens to work really well for me.
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Reader Comments (Page 2 of 2)
BigEye Sep 16th 2008 7:28PM
Cinder blocks!!! That's what I'm going to do with my exercise bike and a lappy!
Serahvin Sep 16th 2008 9:55PM
Do you have any pictures of your setup so we can see how it works exactly?
Suella Sep 17th 2008 8:32PM
Here's a photo of my set up. Very low-tech. :)
http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/6316/2212/1600/100_2533.jpg
jabbawonga Sep 17th 2008 7:08AM
congrats on putting the effort in and reaching your goal! (and also for making exercise a more interesting pursuit and not a chore!) :D
dont forget tho, stretch those calf's after each instance! :D
ryno106 Sep 16th 2008 7:22PM
I once tried this in High School w/ a Nintendo 64. Turns out that Rogue Squadron (Star Wars pilot sim) was a poor choice, since I'm naturally inclined to lean in the direction I'm turning in games like that. On the bright side, I only had to fall off once to learn the lesson:-P
Gratz on the weight loss, that's a bigger accomplishment than any purple drop in the game.
Gizmo Sep 16th 2008 7:42PM
Thanks to all the WoWInsider commenters for keeping it positive. I'm hella impresssed!
I'm also incredibly envious both of the 15 minutes of fame guy and the person who can't gain weight (I'm 6'6" and 300 lbs).
Zorklat Sep 19th 2008 9:20AM
I've seen flexible, moisture-resistant silicone keyboards offered; they're preferred for computers used in hospitals and laboratories. I suppose I could look them up, but honestly, I'm not interested at the moment.
Vinna Sep 17th 2008 8:05AM
Along the same concept I had done something similar but even less expensive. I have multiple computers in my house so I took one of them and put it on a bar height table. So I am either standing or simply walking in place while at that pc. You burn more calories standing than you do sitting, and you tend to move around more anyway. Add in the walking in place and you've got even more calories burned.
While raiding I do like to sit at a desk so I can be more focused, but the standing/in place walking is ideal for checking email, auction house listings, dailies, reading wow insider and other blogs.. heh.
Rich Sep 17th 2008 9:58AM
There are latex skins that you can buy fairly cheaply for your keyboard that protect the keys and membrane from liquids, debris and general funkiness.
Check out the keyboard at the lube bay station next time you take your car in for an oil change, they work like a charm and with some scotch tape handy you can even take it off and wipe it down every week or so.
Lex Sep 17th 2008 10:38AM
Hmm, a doctoral student studying games in a guild called Terror Nova...might this be the online stomping grounds of Terra Nova regulars? There's a shaman in there named Pleimunni, and Julian Dibbell wrote a book called Play Money a few years ago...
KateJaneway Sep 17th 2008 10:34AM
I actually do weightwatchers now, their online program, it's really nice because I get to give myself points etc, and it tickles my wow-gamer mind because it's really like playing a game.
"Oh I ate another serving of fruit, I get a fruit point, sweeeeet."
Lisa Poisso Sep 17th 2008 12:54PM
The New York Times just published this article today about treadmills at office workstations: http://tinyurl.com/6qx6ud
redaruroa Sep 18th 2008 10:14AM
Please tell me he will find a way to market this. It is a great idea!! I have a few friends and myself who would benifit from this.
zubrowka Sep 19th 2008 9:31PM
Wow, grats on being on Fark
KAP Dec 4th 2008 4:45PM
I've used these keyboards and mice for work: waterproof. http://www.man-machine.com/
Emanne Jun 29th 2009 7:16AM
Playing video games or otherwise occupying yourself while you exercize is a great idea in general since you're more likely to keep working out since you have something fun to do. I often watch DVDs while I work out or play a Playstation game etc.
I've never tried hooking up a computer to a treadmill though, since I'm afread of damaging the PC.
Hypothetically though, I think if I were to use a setup like the one in the article I would put the monitor and the sound system (and any other sensitive components) on a shelf in front of the treadmill. Ideally I would only have a cheap wireless keyboard and mouse with me on the treadmill so if I tripped or got sweaty etc. only two cheap components would get damaged. Also that way I could have room for a larger monitor which is always nice :)
George Aug 16th 2011 5:56PM
stumbled across this post and still in awe of the treadmill set up. Can be good for walking or low impact. As I am always looking to increase my heartrate and burn calories so a radio or TV on the wall works best for me.