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9-22-2008 @ 11:15AM
This sounds like its about ready to go through the Good Player Exodus I've seen and generally advocated several times over my wow career, on different servers and circumstances. This happens when one officer or member gets more popular than a waning guild leader (and in most cases, is a much better raid leader). This person leaves, takes the core players that aren't personal friends of the leader, and eventually the old guild capsizes, often ending up with many of the same leaders in the new guild. The first time I saw this happen, the leader was a bit of a blowhard who fancied himself a PVP master and was never around to lead raids, and a charismatic if crazy raidleader took the whole guild. Eventually all the leadership but the main leader had joined the new guild, and it pretty much lasted until that guild leader's mom died and he pretty much quit. While it lasted, it was pretty good, we managed to salvage most of the guild.When I went through it most recently, it was a lot rockier. The charismatic guy didn't grab quite so many people as he tried to pug from other guilds, one of the main tanks quit and then went Balance, and the other ended up cleaning out his guildbank and transferring servers. Eventually the former leader of that guild just up and quit, and the members are all scattered everywhere.
9-22-2008 @ 11:52AM
What's funny is that my guild has gone through three similar happenings over the five years (and three MMOs) that it's been around. However, in our case, it's been the jerks and ***holes that have tried to topple my leadership... and it's been their new guilds that have died, gasping for breath, while my guild soldiers on toward great things.In most cases, the group of trouble makers were already people who I had considered kicking out, and were usually stirred up by someone who I had already gotten complaints about from other guild leaders for their behavior when dealing with other guilds.With regard to the article though, I'm not sure what to make of the guild leader in question. I've been called a tyrant before myself for kicking out people who were abusive to other guild members. Their friend(s) left in the guild, of course, hated me for it... but their blatant breaking of guild conduct policies left me no choice.Having been there and done that for five years now, I'm very reluctant to judge this guild leader without knowing exactly what went down. Way too often, we are blamed for simply keeping the peace.
9-22-2008 @ 2:27PM
Nothing he says has implied that anyone other than himself has a problem with this guy.It looks to be a grin and bear it situation. The advice you are giving him could very easily just destroy a guild filled with people who are actually happy with it. Guilds can do quite well even with a GL that's himself a terrible player (one of the best guilds on my server definitely has a GM that's terrible).You disliking the guy is not enough justification for a coup.
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