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9-22-2008 @ 11:18AM
I don't think it was right of you to offer this suggestion based on one side of the argument. You concede that it's Machiavellian to use this strategy, yet you hardly hold back at all. In all honesty, how can you expect to put a better GM in place when the only methods you're using to do so are underhanded and deceitful? As I work my way through the third book of the Inheritance cycle (the sequels to Eragon, about the boy who becomes a legendary Dragon Rider), time and time again I run into the motif of someone refusing to use underhanded tactics, not because the result would be evil, but because the methods would be. The book mentions that the villain believes he is totally justified, but due to his methods, he has become evil. The hero, then, must ensure that he never resorts to those same strategies, lest he only replace the villain as someone equally evil.My way to replace the GM would be to discuss it with the GM personally. If the GM gets angry and overreacts, or if you are sure (and have history to prove it) that the GM will just kick you if you even approach the topic, then talk to the officers and the GM at the same time. Do not try to win the officers onto your side before the discussion, let it be spontaneous but have everyone there and willing to talk. If there really have been abuses of power or other reasons to remove the GM, then the majority of the people in that conversation will agree, and perhaps the GM and an officer could swap places, or become co-GMs.Why choose my method over the other? Because my method includes a way for the GM to redeem himself/herself. The GM can say, "Oh, wow, you're right. I've been a jerk to the guild. How about we promote xxxxxx to be a co-GM with me and keep me in check, and I'll try to tone it down a bit too." With the other way, you end up with the ex-GM saying, "I'll get you all back! I will!" That person will then spend the rest of their time on that server (short lived though it is likely to be) undermining your efforts any time possible. You will make more enemies than friends, and your guild will be gone shortly thereafter.For the love of God, don't let a breakdown of communication be the end of a guild. It's far too common and far too easy to prevent.
9-22-2008 @ 11:41AM
Taking advice on how to do real life (or WoW life) relationships from an obviously very idealistic storybook seems ill advised at best. Machiavellian politics work (at least most of the time, when done skillfully and subtly). Sitting everyone down to have a sharing circle does not. And not talking to other officers beforehand is the worst possible strategy. Here's what happens in this situation:Frustrated Officer: Okay guys, officer meeting.(Several minutes/hours/days pass while we wait for all/most officers to assemble)Frustrated Officer: GL, you have some problems, and these are them (lists problems). And i think i speak for most people here.(awkward silence)GL: Please don't try and start drama, Frustrated Officer.Frustrated Officer: /gquit.The point is, nothing is solved.
9-22-2008 @ 11:47AM
I agree with you to a degree. Let it be spontaneous, but you better do your homework first and give good examples and arguments. Most of the time it isn't what you say, but how you say it. I also agree with the idea of talking to the GM for what you mentioned about him not realizing he's "been a jerk to the guild". It's amazing how people can change if you can intelligently and tactfully talk to someone. You may not like him, but sometimes that can change too. I've had several people that i didn't like, but after discussing it with them i've seen redeeming qualities in them and changed My mind.
9-26-2008 @ 7:24PM
Failure, due to referencing a book that is basically the bastardization of Dragonlance, Star Wars, and The End of Faith rolled into one. Seriously, read the book while watching Star Wars and see how many characters you pick out. I'm surprised he didn't have "Eragon, I am your brother" in there ffs.Back to the OP, although I might be reading too much into this, I think based on the evidence shown it's just straight personal dislike. You didn't give even one begrudged good quality, so your almost certainly lying, either to us or to yourself. If he hadn't done anything right then someone other than you would have done something about it before now. And if your guild hasn't due to inertia, let it be, not like putting up with a bad sense of humor is going to kill you. Hell put him on mute if he doesn't run the raids, and if he does then your missing at least one good thing about him right there!
9-23-2008 @ 1:08AM
This is considerably better advice than the article.
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