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9-22-2008 @ 11:55AM
Fantasy is not written to explore a world that never existed. Fantasy is written so we may learn more about ourselves. Tell Tolkien that his books mean nothing to the real world, Tell C.S. Lewis that he inspired no one. Tell Christ that talking to someone about problems solves nothing. I can't quote chapter and verse, but I can assure you that it's in the New Testament, and the gist of it is this: If you have a dispute with someone, talk to them about it. If you cannot talk to just them about it, then talk to them and close friends to both of you. NEVER drag it out into the open, using the public eye as a way to ridicule or hurt the other person.Shortly after a raid:Officer 1:"Ok, let's talk about the raid"*Minimal discussion of strategies, group composition, whatever*Officer 1:"Ok, now let's talk about some things that many people have been bothered by. We aren't accusing, we're trying to work things out"GM, probably scared or angry, "Like what? I didn't do anything!"O1: "Like I said, we aren't here to accuse. We just want to talk about what has upset some people, and how we can work it out"From this point, the officers need to work WITH not AGAINST. Keep that phrase in mind. WITH not AGAINST. Working against someone keeps them defensive. Working with someone, especially when you have a common goal, e.g. having successful raids, will be infinitely more successful.Again, I reiterate. Which is better? Removing the GM and making him/her bitter and angry, or involving the GM so that everyone can learn from their mistakes?
9-22-2008 @ 2:28PM
Certainly i agree that fantasy is written to illuminate ourselves/our world w/e. However, the very mechanic that makes fantasy, "fantasy" involves changing how the world works. Sometimes, that change involves creating a world where the author's ideas of how the world *should* work becomes how the fantasy world *does* work. I'm thinking about China Miéville's anarcho-communism in Perdido Street Station, and following, but the same can be said about any of the works you mentioned. Jesus (why'd you have to bring up Jesus? He's much too loaded to treat with on a forum... nevermind, here i go) was not making statements about how the world was, he made statements about how he wished it were. "Let's all be nice and try and get along..." Of course, we see how far that got him... Same again with Tolkien. Tolkien had this idea of how the world *should be* that is... agrarian, and archly conservative in favour of middle class British ideals that were exceedingly dated even when he was writing. Tolkien's "heroes" act on their "merry olde England" ideals and "preserve" the world from scientific progress. This is what i mean by "*ideological* fantasy"Now (taking Tolkien) if you actually want to preserve forgotten conservative values, and retard technological progress, by all means, take Tolkien to be your guide! However, don't be surprised when "reality" does not treat your ideals as kindly as an author (who is already biased toward embracing said ideals).Now, on to pragmatics. If my GM is an ass, i want him out of my life. I don't care if he "learns his lesson" or not. Similarly, whether or not he is bitter or angry doesn't matter (so long as his bitterness/anger is not going to have an adverse effect on my live, greater than the benefit i receive from eliminating an aggravation from my life). Have you ever actually tried to have a reasonable conversation in vent with someone who is very upset? Be prepared for a lot of overtalking and "No! No! No! Listen to ME goddammit!" ...which only gets worse the more people you add into your sharing circle.
9-26-2008 @ 10:13AM
@ At TanglebonesTBH your synopsis of Tolkien is,imo, horribly and completely incorrect. We KNOW from historic fact the Hobbit was actually a fairy story he MADE UP for his children as a bedtime story. LOTR he made several years later, after a certain WAR. He wanted to incorperate his personal experiences (illuminating the true horror of war) into a social commentary, and hence the LOTR was born. I cannot see any sense in maligning his intent to say he was against technological revolution, esp as at that time, Britain was one (if not THE) leader in technologic innovation at the time, and he was based right in the middle of it (the locations in Middle earth are also real ones, and paritys can be made solely on those, but without any real evidence). Similarly all i see is YOUR views being read into it. Not you 'analysing' logically with research into the authors motivations and views. All i can say is assumption certainly make an ass out of people, and your half baked ideas are neither illuminating nor accurate.Strangely enough, even though i completely disagree with your 'example' i do agree with your pragmatic view mostly. I personally would TRY to get the GL to 'see the error of his ways', but if it is rebuffed (as i would fully expect it to be), removing the annoyance without causing long term effects on my life (E: or RL that is) is the sensible and normal course
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