Resurrection etiquette
No matter what you do in the World of Warcraft, you risk stepping into a sludge pool of drama. From arguments about class mechanics to heated discussions with trolls, to distribution of loot, it is impossible to avoid conflict. In my personal gaming experience, I would have to say that most of the time I become upset, angry, annoyed or feel the need to take a time out, it is because I chose to run a dungeon with a pick-up group. Whether I'm tanking or healing, I inevitably run into people who seem to have no regard for other players.
As an example, I have a strong policy about my resurrection ability. I feel that if you die, whether from a stupid mistake of your own or a legitimate reason, you deserve to be resurrected.
On the other hand, if the entire party wipes, and no one had a soulstone or self-resurrection available, I believe everyone should run.
Sure, if you have to hit the washroom or someone comes to the door, I'll run with everyone else and pick you up after, and that's no problem.
My one pet peeve is that I did not become a healer because I have a passion for long and annoying corpse runs, while everyone else plays Bejeweled, makes a snack, browses the Internet, and generally entertains themselves.
As a healer, I'm willing to pay for elixirs, flasks, buff food, mana oils, potions, reagents, and anything else I need to keep the group alive and working, no matter how much the runs end up costing in the end, even for people I do not know. It gets expensive, but it is my job.
Most people I know, including friends, guildmates and the members of my sister guild, intuitively will run if there is no resurrection from a surviving party or raid member to be had.
Some players, however, will automatically assume that I'll run after each wipe to resurrect them come off as self-absorbed. It is almost as though they simply can't see the situation from my point of view. At that point, I'll usually mention that my rule is a wipe equals a corpse run for everyone. It's only fair, and I think running is the respectful and polite course of action.
Of course, sometimes I run into people who will sincerely refuse to run, become irate, and eventually drop group because I'm too 'selfish' to resurrect them.
How do you feel about resurrection etiquette?
Should the healer, who already spends more on the run than anyone aside from the tank, has a more stressful job than any DPS, and makes sacrifices for people they do not even know, be forced to make all the corpse runs? Does the ability to resurrect automatically dictate this in the job description? If so, would you still choose to heal, or to run PuGs?
Filed under: Druid, Paladin, Priest, Shaman, Analysis / Opinion, Instances






Reader Comments (Page 1 of 10)
Fermac Sep 25th 2008 4:41PM
As a healer I already have to run to my corpse if we had a wipe. Nobody else is forced to do it. Go play bejeweled, I don't mind.
agnoster Sep 25th 2008 8:14PM
IAWTC 100%. It's definitely a sign of courtesy when others do the corpse run with me, and it strongly increases the chance that I'll want to heal for you in the future, but, honestly, I'm running already and I'm a utilitarian. I'm fortunate enough that it seems I rarely have to do it, but it's a capability I bring to the group and I'm not above using it.
Arkhill Sep 25th 2008 4:37PM
As a dps and occasional tank, I expect to be rezzed if someone is alive to do it, but if we wipe, I run back along with everyone else, even if it wasn't my fault.
jay Sep 25th 2008 4:49PM
As a healer, it rips my guts when I get members of a group (sometimes all) that upon a full wipe wait till I get back to be rezzed.
If I have the ability to pop, then yeah it goes without saying, but otherwise I expect everyone to navigate their way back at the very least.
Jagden Sep 25th 2008 4:56PM
I play shaman and its not resto, no plans to become resto either, dont mind offhealing when its needed.
but i point blank say NO to people asking for a ress if its a wipe. Ive had occasions where ive delayed the group in an instance just because im not ressing people. Or should i say they delayed the progress from pure bigheaded bone idolnessss.
Luckily i do most of my instancing with 3 friends (prot warr, mage and resto dru) and they stand fully behind my decision to not ress the lazy players.
in the PuG world its not that hard to pick up another dps anyway..
Manatank Sep 25th 2008 5:15PM
I agree with both Arkhill, and the poster of the article for the most part, but there is a danger in demanding people run back. Some people get in the nasty habit of releasing as soon as they die instead of waiting for a wipe. This makes it harder to rez them when the group doesn't wipe, and if you have a druid in the group it kills their combat rez.
Don't forget to stay a corpse until the group has really wiped. Don't assume that just because there isn't a rez class still standing that you are free to release either. Unless you know for sure that there isn't a single engineer left in the living either. Or a dead shaman. Or a rezzer with a soul stone on them. Basically, just don't release until a wipe.
Damntheman Sep 25th 2008 5:19PM
One of the worst things they ever did was give rep to the dead, encouraging nubs to sit around until the last body falls. As a mage, I have on more than one occasion started my corpse run as soon as I died and made it back in time to finish the fight.
It goes without saying that if it's a wipe everyone runs. If some douchebag drops group because a healer refuses to rez his lazy ass, then the group should be happy they found someone to add to their ignore list, and all it cost them was the inconvenience of finding a replacement or maybe a failed instance.
Damntheman Sep 25th 2008 5:29PM
Lol, great timing. The right after a nublet cries "please don't release, I'll never be able to find your body!". God forbid the healer actually watches what's going on. I know most of you are just playing a glorified game of whack-a-mole, but believe it or not some situational awareness can work wonders. Try changing your buttons to "click to cast" so that instead of playing with your party window you actually have some idea of where your group is and what is GOING to happen, not what already has.
Sabotage Sep 25th 2008 6:27PM
Jagden,
I think you're simply being selfish if you play a DPS shaman but refuse to res other people. Really, the Shaman is a Hybrid class for a very specific reason - be act like one. If you are not satisfied with being stuck being the occasional off-healer or are needed to ressurect someone, then simply you're playing the wrong class.
I have both a Priest, and a Paladin. As a Priest, i played holy, I even enjoyed it. I still enjoy it from time to time. But as a Retribution paladin, I'm stuck in that hybrid role. I recognized that role... and then gave it up. A while back I started playing my Rogue again, and began basking in the glory of not needing to heal, res, or provide group buffs at my own expense.
Quite simply, if you don't want to do something that a healer is supposed to do - don't play a class that can heal / res. Otherwise, it's you're role to act like the hybrid you play.
Damntheman Sep 25th 2008 11:00PM
Sabatoge, you buffoon. He specifically said that he will do anything that is required of a hybrid, including off-heal. What he won't do is rez lazy brats who don't want to run back after a wipe.
Arioch Sep 26th 2008 12:54AM
Sure, sitting and waiting for someone to run back and rez you is selfish and rude. But holding up the entire group by refusing to rez someone is every bit as selfish and rude... and worse, you're taking it out on the whole group.
shumanfu Sep 26th 2008 7:05AM
Sorry a-hole but you shouldnt expect anything...
if you're nice enough to ask to be rezzed i'll do it.
But dont expect any favours for being a dps that is full of fail and cant either watch omen or doesnt know how to iceblock/vanish/avoid losing health.
mimschi Sep 26th 2008 8:06AM
as a general rule i never ress people unless they release and show the will to run.. i mean i rather look half a second for their body as paying attention you know where they died anyway than have them sit on their ass lazily waiting for me to do their job..
jrizutko Sep 26th 2008 11:08AM
I absolutely agree with Arioch. Anyone and everyone whose pigheadedness slows up a pug is at fault. In my opinion, slowing down a run is the lamest outcome, and the 10 seconds it takes to rez someone is less of a slowdown than the drama of arguing, the wait for someone to run back and the possibility of having to find a replacement mid-go. The lazy person can be talked to and ensured that they only get one free pass. The res refuser is an intractable moron that cannot be fixed.
Damntheman Sep 26th 2008 11:52AM
Oh, silly jrizutko. So you're teaching them a lesson by rezzing them? Let me get this straight: they're a jerk and they refuse to run back like everyone else. You rez them because "The lazy person can be talked to and ensured that they only get one free pass". riiiiiiight. I'm sure rezing them is a good way to teach them they can't just expect a rez. You realize that your same argument applies to the next wipe right? Gutless whelps like you are the reason the rest of us end up in pugs with these jokers.
Bfree380 Sep 25th 2008 4:38PM
/Applaud
Camaris Sep 25th 2008 4:38PM
I agree 100% on that. Although usually you do end up ressurecting the non-runners, I always ask them to run next time.
Of course, with guild runs it's a different matter, although it's still a nice way to uncover the slackers ;)
Ichigo Sep 25th 2008 4:39PM
Resurrection should go as follows:
1. Healers to resurrect the others en masse
2. Pet classes (Hunters, Warlocks, DK), as it takes time to resurrect/re-summon their pets.
3. Buffing classes.
4. Everyone else.
Ametrine Sep 25th 2008 5:33PM
This. And, of course, wipes mean you run.
zurno Sep 25th 2008 6:27PM
amen
it annoys me to get rezzed last when I have to get mana, summon my minion, make cookies, then get mana again
atleast rez me before the damn druid
the other great thing is sometimes I will be drinking still and the group will take off on me
besides that I love the group I run with to death