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9-27-2008 @ 7:42PM
If Warlocks were Mages......I'd complain that we can't put out decent raid DPS as Demonology, that we can't survive a PvP beatdown as Destruction, and that we have no burst damage as Affliction. ...I'd be highly offended that there are some circumstances in which other classes can sometimes out-DPS us. Cos we should do more DPS than anybody, always. Why? Because we should, that's why. Just shut up and accept it....I'd complain about our raid utility for some reason, despite the fact that we have a number of highly useful abilities that make our class a key component of any raid....I'd complain about our lack of representation at top Arena rankings, utterly oblivious to the fact that every class other than Warriors, Rogues, and Druids is in the same position....I'd bitch endlessly about our counter-class and how, darn it, they have such an easy time beating us! Who do they think they are, our counter-class? (Wait. I already kinda do this. Never mind...)...I'd carry on as though my class was somehow greatly underpowered, despite our success and popularity in every aspect of the game other than high-level small-team arena....I'd carry a permanent grudge that ours is not the only class that can wear robes, cast spells, and look cool while doing it. Who do they think they are?Man. I'm glad I'm not a Mage. Cos with all that complaining to do, how would I find time to ever play the damned game?(To be fair, Mr. Belt, this article of yours is much less angst-ridden than some you've written. But you must admit that there are times when you do seem to perpetuate the stereotype of the "QQing Mage" pretty enthusiastically.)Ooops, I've just outed myself as a Warlock on a Mage thread. /use Greater Flame Protection Potion...
9-27-2008 @ 8:11PM
the reason we should do more dps is because we die quicker the a ret pallys dream of hardcore raiding and because unlike locks we dont have an endless supply of mana. So go make angry love to your succubus and stay out of the mage topic
9-27-2008 @ 8:57PM
No Wally, the reason mages should do more DPS is because they cannot contribute DPS boosts to others. They are explicitly stated as a ranged damage-dealing class, and no matter which talent tree they choose, that is always their job. They can't debuff a target, nor can they feed mana/health back to the group. They don't have a (full-time) pet, and they're highly fragile.Now don't get me wrong, I love locks just as much as mages. I just think each has a different purpose in a group, and things should reflect their purpose. Imagine taking a WWS report, and figuring out how much of the mages' damage came from the locks' curses and applying that damage to the locks' numbers. Because that damage really did come from them. I think if you did that, warlocks would always top the meters, and by a good amount.But too many people are concerned with their own personal damage, which is kind of sad since it's suppose to be about getting the boss down.(Obviously I'm only speaking from a PvE perspective here.)
9-27-2008 @ 9:00PM
Actually, he makes several good points. I'm sorry, does that upset you? Evocation much? Mana gems? A warlock has to pay for mana with health, so it ain't an unlimited supply, unless you want to spend msot of your time draining life. Go make love to your water elemental, and quit whining.Everything is in a state of flux right now. It is beta. And at current, not to many classes are really happy with where they are at. Blizzard hit a sweet spot for classes, but instead of actually going with what they had, and changing numbers, they decided to screw up a number of things. Nearly EVERYONE suffered from this. Not just mages. Get over it, and keep posting useful feedback in the beta and PTR forums, and not the usual "OMG, I die to hunters/warlocks/rogues!" crap I see all the time.
9-28-2008 @ 12:39AM
"Actually, he makes several good points. I'm sorry, does that upset you? Evocation much? Mana gems? A warlock has to pay for mana with health, so it ain't an unlimited supply, unless you want to spend msot of your time draining life. Go make love to your water elemental, and quit whining."1. mages that ues evocation during a boss fight, or even trash clearing are scrubs... and should be replaced with dps arms speced warriors in season 1 arena gear.2. either you haven't spent much time raiding on a warlock, or you play your's horribly. and if i even have to explain why i said that it just proves my point.
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