Encrypted Text: Lifestyle of the Northrend Rogue
Every Wednesday, Chase Christian of Encrypted Text invites you to enter the world of shadows, as we explore the secrets and mechanics of the Rogue class. This week, we explore quality of life changes for Rogues in the upcoming expansion.After playing The Burning Crusade for nearly two years now, most Rogues have gotten into their level 70 groove. They know where the poison vendors are in Shattrath and where to acquire some good leather gear. They know where to level up their lockpicking and the best way to organize reagents in their bags. However, all that is about to change.
Blizzard is implementing a ton of new simple changes to the Rogue class that are guaranteed to have many of us confused at first. I've tried to make this transition a little bit easier by outlining some of the differences between your time at 70 and the upcoming road to 80. Read on to find out what these changes mean to your daily Rogue lifestyle.
Poisons:
The biggest change for Rogues by far in WotLK is the complete removal of the Poison skill and the drastic alteration of poisons and poison talents. Blizzard seemed to revert to the strategy they use for all other classes: buy your reagents off a reagent vendor. This means you will no longer be creating your own poisons, and that all poison-making materials are soon to be worthless. They still currently drop from lockboxes, but expect that to be changed by the release date of Wrath.
The new method for acquiring poisons is to simply buy them from a Poison Vendor. These vendors now sell finished poisons instead of materials, with every rank of poison available. This makes replenishing your poison supply a quick purchase instead of an algebra-invoking word problem. "If I need four Wound poisons and two Deadly poisons, how many Essence of Agony...."
An important note: Vanish no longer requires Flash Powder, so your visit to the Poison Vendor will be even less frequent and far more enjoyable! Add that to the fact that the new Traveler's Tundra Mammoth has a reagent/poison vendor built in, and you may never be heading back to town again.
Another major change to Poisons comes via the consolidation of ranks Crippling and Mind-Numbing Poisons. These poisons have all been reduced to a single rank, making it impossible to have the "wrong" one in your inventory. This also means that your Crippling Poison is at full potency as soon as you are able to purchase it. In addition, Mind-Numbing has had its potency increased from a 30% increase in cast time to a 60% increase in casting time. This should help counter many of the cast speed and haste increases that casters are seeing in WotLK.
The changes to poisons don't stop there. Blizzard has also increased the application chance of all poisons (save Instant/Deadly) to 50%! Wound, Crippling, Mind-Numbing, and Anesthetic poisons applying at 50% means that we will have much more control over our targets, and our almost co-dependent reliance on Shiv will be lessened greatly. This also frees up talent points, as many Rogues felt it was required to spec into Improved Poisons in order to keep their poisons applied to the target.
Speaking of Anesthetic Poison, you will want to consider carrying a stack or two in your bags in WotLK. Many classes have gained new buffs known as "Enrage" effects; and anesthetic poison can remove those buffs from the target. Think of it like Purge but for physical Enrage effects instead of magic. This gives us a significant edge against Warriors, Death Knights, and Assassination Rogues, and more - always keep a stack handy.
Instant and Deadly (and also Wound) Poisons were not excluded from the love as well: their damage now scales with Attack Power. The final values remain to be seen, as recently the amount of poison damage done by Rogues is significantly imbalanced in the beta. The current modifiers are poison base + ~10% of AP, however we will see how Blizzard decides to scale this in the future.
However, all of these buffs to poisons did not come without a few nerfs and rebalancing. Most notably, Deadly Brew has been hit drastically: it now only applies Crippling Poison when the target is hit with Instant, Wound, or Mind-Numbing Poison. While it still allows a Rogue to use Wound or Mind-numbing on their offhand (as you can still Shiv and get the Crippling effect), it is not nearly as versatile as its previous iterations, and has almost no PVE usage.
Wound Poison was changed as well, as it now does not stack to 5. It applies its full 50% healing debuff on one application. While this is great for getting the healing debuff effect on the target quick, it can also be dispelled in one cast. The hope is that the increased application chance will make up for this change. While a Rogue is on a target, keeping poisons up will be no problem. However, once the target is out of range of the Rogue, all of our poisons can be cleansed easily.
Other Changes:
There have been other changes besides the very sweeping poison skill redesign. One of the coolest is the new smooth energy regeneration. Energy now regenerates in 1 energy increments, so a Rogue gains 1 energy every 0.1 seconds. Before, Rogues gained 20 energy every 2 seconds. This means the end of waiting for "energy ticks" and mods like EnergyWatch will become useless.
The new energy regeneration mechanic also makes our Kick ability much more potent. It has been reduced to a single rank, and no longer deals damage. Blizzard also removed Kick from the Global Cooldown, so it can be used at any time, even when other spells are locked out due to the GCD. This means that no matter what, a Rogue will never be more than 1 second away from Kicking a target (provided that Kick is not on cooldown). Rogues currently dominate casters in TBC, and it looks like WotLK is eminent domain for us as well.
Perhaps to compensate us for Kick not doing any damage, Gouge has also been reduced to a single rank and now does damage based on Attack Power. The current formula is 1 + 21% of the Rogue's AP. An example Rogue in WotLK will have around 2300 AP in decent gear, making Gouge deal around 500 damage. This is significantly more than it dealt previously, and I can see more Rogues integrating this into their PVP rotations.Gouge still adds 1 combo point to the current target (its combo point generation has been in limbo). Great damage, an incapacitate, and a combo point? Combo in the Gouge Glyph I covered last week, and it's looking very good in WotLK.
In less combat-related Rogue news, Rogues will be recovering a significant piece of their bag space. In addition the removal of the Flash Powder requirement for Vanish (mentioned above), our need for Thieves' Tools has also been removed from Disarm Trap and Pick Lock. Tack on the fact that we won't need any poison creation materials as well, Rogues look to be having much more free bag space in the near future.
Blizzard has also improved our pickpocket/lockpicking potency. There are currently two new lockboxes, Froststeel Lockboxes and Titanium Lockboxes. Note that Titanium Lockboxes are blue, and have a significant chance to drop a blue item. In the 4 Titanium boxes I've found, 3 contained good-quality blue items. There are currently no "lockpicking zones" implemented, and Rogue Trainers obviously don't offer any guidance to said zones as they do for lockpicking levels below 350. However, I have had no problem keeping my lockpicking at maximum simply by picking the lockboxes I have pocketed.
We've covered most of the quality of life changes for Rogues here today, and hopefully it will give you some insight as to what life will be like as a Rogue in Northrend. Tune in next Wednesday for more shadowy goodness as we continue our look into Rogues in Wrath.
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Reader Comments (Page 1 of 2)
adam Oct 1st 2008 2:18PM
Can you offer any feedback on a rumor i heard regarding rogues being able to move unused combo points on a dead target to the next target? As far as i know it is just a rumor and i havent been able to find evidence of this.
madsushi Oct 1st 2008 3:44PM
Just tested on new Beta push, this DOES NOT WORK.
zappo Oct 1st 2008 2:22PM
"While it still allows a Rogue to use Wound or Mind-numbing on their offhand it is not nearly as versatile as its previous iterations, and has almost no PVE usage."
There is one key thing to keep in mind there. If you use envenom and pull off a stack of deadly poison, your target is still counted as "poisoned" proved you still have crippling on the target. While that used to be paramount due to mutilate itself, not having the target poisoned also means we don't get the 3% crit bonus on the target.
I'm still not convinced to use envenom, but I guess I'll have to see how poison application works in practice.
Solid article btw
madsushi Oct 1st 2008 3:13PM
"There is one key thing to keep in mind there. If you use envenom and pull off a stack of deadly poison, your target is still counted as "poisoned" proved you still have crippling on the target. While that used to be paramount due to mutilate itself, not having the target poisoned also means we don't get the 3% crit bonus on the target.
I'm still not convinced to use envenom, but I guess I'll have to see how poison application works in practice."
I should add that the new Envenom also increases your chance to apply instant or deadly poison by 15% after usage. Between improved poisons and the 15% bonus after an envenom, recovering your deadly poison stack will be easier than previous iterations. :)
Phedre Oct 1st 2008 2:39PM
Finally a qualified rogue writer that actually updates occasionally! I'd been feeling depressed about my class, given that every other class gets a new article about buffs on nearly a daily basis with nary a peep about the rogue. Great article!
Laynne Oct 1st 2008 2:49PM
Agreed!
JPN Oct 1st 2008 2:32PM
Good to see some rogue love finally...
Cedric Oct 1st 2008 2:40PM
Good summary.
I am currently leveling my T6 Rogue through Northrend and she is ridiculously overpowered (by design). I respecced Shadowstep+Cold Blood, dusted off an old dagger and my Ambushes and Eviscerates crit in the 4k+, which means that two crits are usually enough to almost kill any non-elite mob you'll come across.
Even though my swords would do more damage, high burst specs like the one I'm currently using are perfect for leveling your Rogue until you return to the boring but highly effective Combat build for raiding.
Darkthunder Oct 1st 2008 3:12PM
Care to share on your talent build spec? :P
Most of these changes sound most impressive. And the change to lockboxes (adding the Rare type boxes), might make the Uncommon green boxes appear more frequently as a result. I also think they should have an extremely rare chance of finding an Epic box, with a high chance of an epic item inside (minimum Rare quality).
If a Non-Rogue has such boxes and needs them opened, he/she can just use the Will not be traded box, in Trade. I'd bet it would be awfully tempting to keep a Rare or Epic box for oneself :P
Cedric Oct 1st 2008 3:40PM
Here is my spec: http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?talent=fheMoj0oZ0oZxbckuGzdAzI0o
Nothing revolutionary, really. I'm planning on putting the extra points in dual wield, but it's basically geared toward maximal burst damage, which is the way to go to level a Rogue in my opinion.
On an unrelated note, my Thieves' Tool is not marked as obsolete in the current build, so I haven't thrown it out. Did anyone else notice this?
Lemons Oct 1st 2008 8:23PM
Shiving on crippling when other rogues use evasion is one of it's most valuable applications, and I don't think that'll change come wotlk.
I am however excited about the changes to mind-numbing and anesthetic poisons. Now that mind numbing doesn't have to stack on the target it will be more powerful than ever before and I might actually use it. anesthetic poison has always been the black sheep of the poison family but now it has a clear purpose, at least in pvp.
But which rage effects will the poison dispell? Warriors have like 15 flavours of pissed, so which ones will the poisons actually effect? I'm hoping to take off bloodrage, muwhahahahahahahaha! Fight me without your health regening!
Smurk Oct 1st 2008 3:03PM
All of us with rogue mains are gonna keep useless items like Thieves' Tools in our banks anyway, right? I've still got Blinding Powder.
Taytayflan Oct 1st 2008 4:19PM
Yeah, I got 5 Blinding Powder, and I stocked up on poisons/flashpowder to keep through the patch.
Lesley Oct 1st 2008 5:06PM
I still have my blinding powder, too, and they aren't taking my Thieves' Tools. They'll have to loot that off my dead cold corpse and /roll for it to boot.
vlad Oct 1st 2008 3:25PM
nice write up. honestly i never carried reagents for poisons around. i just made them all as soon as i bought them.
at first i was a bit sad creating poisons was removed but having reactivated my account recently and playing my rogue i was immediatly anoyed at having to create them.
i have a 20 slot bag dedicated to poisons and flash powder. a shame they wont be increasing the stack quantity. a vial would certainly hold more than 20 doses.
onetrueping Oct 1st 2008 7:15PM
Technically speaking, an application holds an hour's worth of doses.
Flavio Oct 1st 2008 3:28PM
But lockboxes cant be pickpocketed, they're dropped :o
And we have the new and exciting Reinforced Junkbox now
http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?item=43575
350 lp
mike Oct 1st 2008 7:33PM
actually you can pickpocket lockboxes, i did it on the timbermaw humanoids you have to pickpocket from on your lvl 50 class quest
Flavio Oct 1st 2008 7:49PM
Yes, because a lockbox is a Sealed Azure Bag?
http://www.wowhead.com/?quest=8234
Lockboxes and Junkboxes work in a very likely way, BUT one is dropped and the other is pickpocketed.
Sothe Oct 1st 2008 4:32PM
All the rogue changes make me really regret rerolling horde and starting a priest at that!!!!!
....I might start playing my ally rogue again.