So much for Chaos and other Warlock stories in build 9014
You might have heard that Chaos Bolt now deals Fire damage instead of the nebulous "Chaos" damage, which was actually an amalgamation of all schools of magic. On one hand, this is good news because getting Kicked or Counterspelled while casting it won't lock Warlocks out of every spell. On the other hand, this means Fire immunities will stop it cold. This makes the spell easier to implement or work with, and further enforces the use of Fire spells for Destruction. It's not even a Shadow and Fire version of Frostfire Bolt. It's just... a bolt Fire that looks like Alien larvae. Now, the coolest thing about Chaos Bolt was how it conceptually penetrated through immunities. Ghostcrawler explained that making immunities have vulnerabilities would only create a vicious cycle. Now, the spell only goes through absorption effects -- which is fine, really, but makes Chaos Bolt merely another direct damage Fire spell. Is it a great 51-point talent? I don't know. It deals pretty good damage, I'll give it that. But I'm not sure it's worth 51 points.
Curse of Doom can now only produce Doomguards from targets that yield experience or honor, which was a necessary change considering it's now a 100% chance if CoD delivers the killing blow. It still can't be cast on players, though, which is a bummer. Haunt was retuned to heal for 100% of the damage it deals, which isn't so bad considering the 200% I raved about last time was bugged to hell, anyway. Oh, and Everlasting Affliction affects Haunt instead of Shadow Bolt, which is excellent because it relaxes Affliction's already complex rotation.
Inferno now grants only one minute of control over the summoned Infernal, down from five. Blizzard has been see-sawing the duration of this throughout Beta, which really confuses me. It's still a crappy spell because the demon just isn't any good, so the duration doesn't matter. More often than not, because the demon doesn't do anything, a Warlock is likely to release it, anyway. And since Demonic Pact doesn't work with enslaved demons anymore... what's the point, really?
What else? Oh, Conflagrate now works on targets afflicted by Shadowflame, which makes the baseline spell slightly more attractive. The whole conical target thing is still pretty strange, specially if you play Affliction, but Destruction Warlocks should have a better feel for the spell. It's solidly a Destruction spell, after all. More good news -- Drain Soul deals four times normal damage against targets at or below 25% health. It'll still be tricky to pull off in PvP or against trash when everybody is focusing fire, but it's a great change considering how collecting shards always dropped Warlock DPS. And lastly... Demonic Circle lasts 6 minutes now. I don't know if that was even worth mentioning since it lasted long enough before, anyway.
Filed under: Warlock, Analysis / Opinion, Talents, Wrath of the Lich King






Reader Comments (Page 1 of 4)
Saelorn Oct 2nd 2008 8:16PM
So Chaos Bolt is pretty much worthless, since its only selling point was to kill off a paladin who bubbles when almost dead.
Guess I'll stick to affliction.
superfrank Oct 3rd 2008 7:13AM
well I seem to win 1v1 against paladins anyway even when they bubble (run away til it wears off) so its not the end of the world!
Naix Oct 3rd 2008 9:29AM
Affliction IS the best warlock tree. It's what separates a warlock from a mage.
I out DPS everyone on every raid and every BG. Affliction is an amazing tree.
shisho Oct 3rd 2008 12:02PM
You're right. The only selling points were Divine Shield and Ice Block busting.
Dan Oct 3rd 2008 3:33PM
A Warlock crying about not being able to kill a paladin? Are you fricking serious? Locks, more than any class in the game, can utterly and completely wipe out paladins. To the point where if you are playing a paladin start getting doted up in PvP by a lock, you may as well just go get a beer or something, because you will be about as effective in the fight by being afk as you would otherwise.
Epic cluelessness.
SeanOr101 Oct 2nd 2008 8:16PM
Wow.
Warlocks are gonna own everyone in the expansion. Tons of new abilities and summonable things. I only have a lvl 45 'lock, but this news makes we want to play him alot more.
Very cool stuff.
BooDizz Oct 2nd 2008 8:18PM
wow so chaos bolt starts out as this pimp ass bust through your shield spell and ends up being a fire version of shadow bolt?
glad im not a destro lock...
sephirah Oct 3rd 2008 3:46AM
Lock class designers should be quite ashamed by the last version of Chaos Bolt.
They changed it from a "pierce immunities" to "gives Chaotic Mind" to "do damage from all schools" to "do fire damage".
Next patch I guess it will do nothing at all, and the final version it will damage the caster...
Ikarus Oct 3rd 2008 1:15PM
I think some of you are overreacting a bit. It sill peirces absorption effects which doesnt suck. I'm assuming that means:
(for sure) - priest bubble, mage frost barrier and mana shield
and
(possible- not sure if these are considered "Absorbtion" effects) - druid bark skin, War shield wall, Blood spec'd DK's "spell deflection", DK's anti magic shield/anitmagic zone
I'm sure there's more, but I think this aspect isn't something to over look
Kaizen Oct 2nd 2008 8:21PM
They made affliction more complicated. They destroyed destruction. Honestly, they say that they want chaos bolt to be a major part of a destro locks dps then they drop a 12 second cooldown on it. Where's the logic behind that?
Caronome Oct 3rd 2008 12:00PM
Seems that way to me; especially since i am 0/21/40 shadow, PVE and converting to desto that is just a bad fire mage would be especially jarring. Bliz cant please everyone and i am sure they tried and perhaps some people are happy. I guess I will level my lock but it sure is disappointing.
Turtlehead Oct 5th 2008 10:41PM
Both mage and lock are currently a mess on beta.
"Arkhill said...
I know looking at the fact locks get it 15 levels before we mages get our fancy new frostfire bolt make me qq"
Frostfire sucks. Doesn't matter what level we get it at because as things stand you shouldn't use it against non-immunes. The numbers just don't work out PvE and I can't imagine why it'd ever be used PvP. If you are elementalist crit built AND geared AND can leech from another mage it COULD match other builds. That's a lot of caveats.
To Kaizen said...
"They made affliction more complicated. They destroyed destruction. Honestly, they say that they want chaos bolt to be a major part of a destro locks dps then they drop a 12 second cooldown on it. Where's the logic behind that?"
They're fumbling trying to make fire the main DPS for destruction but not pulling it off. If you've ever dealt with arcane as a mage you'll recognize the signs...and wince. Give them another expansion at least. (They've still not straightened out arcane nukes, including on beta.)
My main is mage (mostly frost PvE which I admit is silly), warlock my backup, but unless there are big changes I'll level my bank alt hunter for ranged Lich raid work.
gridwerk Oct 2nd 2008 8:23PM
...and now the QQ:
WTF man??? Do the locks REALLY need another hard-hitting DPS monster and one that punches through defenses to boot?
What the hell?
Blizz, delete the mages already, you win, I'll roll a lock okay?
Sheesh.
/qq.
Kaizen Oct 2nd 2008 8:28PM
Yea we do need another hard hitting dps monster since they raped and gutted shadowbolt
Arkhill Oct 2nd 2008 9:12PM
I know looking at the fact locks get it 15 levels before we mages get our fancy new frostfire bolt make me qq, plus the fact it does about 500 more base damage at the top of it's set.
Factored with Fel Armor and it's talent increase, thats another 234 damage with 39% spellpower from spirit.
Mages get: 30%(50 with the glyph) mana regen and 40 resist
3% (5 with glyph) increased crit chance, and a less chance to be crited
a movement and attack slow
Our armor sucks, theirs is great.
I apologize for the massive qq
Pulley Oct 2nd 2008 9:29PM
Guess Ill dump my warlock after all.. Chaos Bolt is bunk.. Meta is completly worthless.. and Haunt is.. well, its not worth sticking around for. Imma level a DK instead.
Balasan Oct 2nd 2008 8:26PM
I was fully expecting chaos bolt to use chaos damage like in WCIII - a totally different school, and one that had average damage but had the advantage of no one having any resistance and immunity to it.
Guess that's too overpowered.
Raya Oct 2nd 2008 8:58PM
Kinda is. What other class has a spell that can cut through all resistance?
Don't worry about the pally bubble. It doesn't last long. 30 seconds after bubble, is a dead pally.
BooDizz Oct 2nd 2008 8:36PM
/agree
I don't see why the couldn't just make it its own class of magic as stated above, or at least shadow/fire so that it could hit fire immune mobs...
Guess the awesome new destro spell became a damage buffed shadow bolt with a CD.
CvijaFaQ Oct 3rd 2008 3:41AM
Holy damage cut's trough all resistance. Doesn't do anything about absorption or immunities.
Then again why do other classes need to get something before Warlocks can? By that theory no can have anything as no other class has it as well. I like my classes as different as possible kthxbai