Officers' Quarters: A military solution

Every Monday Scott Andrews contributes Officers' Quarters, a column about the ins and outs of guild leadership.
Starting up a new raiding guild is never easy. There's a lot to think about and plenty of competition for those raid-quality players. It's not easy even under ordinary circumstances. Now try doing it while you're on deployment in the U.S. military! That's what this week's reader is facing.
Dear Scott,
I've been playing since about a year prior to the release of BC and been through many guilds which time and time again failed to meet my expectations of what a raiding guild should be, mostly centered around the lack of motivation. I'm in the military and 6 months ago was put on deployment so I've been "WoWless" for the last 6 months or so. While out here I made friends with some fellow players and after a few conversations I asked if anyone was interested in starting a guild. They liked the idea but no one wanted to spearhead it, well this sounded like opportunity knocking.
Best Wishes,
Deployed and Annoyed
You're in a tough spot, D&A, but I like that you're taking charge of your own WoW destiny instead of waiting for someone to hand you the endgame on a silver platter, like too many players do.
Unfortunately raiding guilds are all about "put up or shut up." If you can't produce results, people are going to find a guild that does. It's especially difficult when you're asking people to transfer servers. Not only does it cost "real" money, but they're also leaving friends, rivalries, and alts behind.
Even so, you're doing this at the right time. Many raiders are taking a break these days, burned out from the big push of TBC and all the farming that went with it. It seems like most raiding guilds are on hiatus for the time being, so people aren't expecting much at this moment.
What they are looking for right now is a guild that has a good plan and a committed roster for WotLK. So what I would encourage you to do is to communicate your plan to all the recruits you have so far. Lay it all out there: raiding policies, loot policies, recruiting policies, guild bank policies, the Web site, the Vent server -- everything. Write up a guild charter. Show them exactly what you want to do and tell them why you think your guild will succeed while others fail.
Use your military background to your advantage. I've raided with military people. By and large they make excellent teammates and top-notch raid leaders. The no-nonsense, let's-get-it-done approach often works wonders in a raid setting. With rare exceptions, people respect it and respond to it.
Since half your roster looks to be military personnel, your raiding team will have a leg up on its civilian counterparts. It's an excellent selling point to convince people to join.
However, if you can't get this guild off the ground before other guilds start hitting Naxx at level 80, you're going to be dead in the water. So do what you have to. Work with your friend back home to get as many people on the server and on the roster as you can. Then start clearing Naxx with whomever is available.
You have a great opportunity here. Come home safe and let us know how it works out!
/salute
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Reader Comments (Page 1 of 1)
Frijid Oct 6th 2008 3:23PM
Hey, man. I'm in the Navy.
And recently, about 2 weeks ago, we gathered up tons of people that play WoW on our ship. And we all rolled new toons on a server, and made a guild. I don't think we'll start raiding anytime soon, but getting together with all your friends on WoW is fun and relaxing. Making fun of stuff that happens at work is awesome too.
In my opinion, I'd suggest just making a community/chat guild with all your friends, or find a raiding guild. There's no way I could lead a raiding guild. Hell, I could barely lead a Kara group. Or you could just all join up in a successful raiding guild on your server. ^_^
Either way, it's all just about having fun, right?
Regards,
[i]Frijid of Shadowmoon[/i]
Tom Oct 7th 2008 3:56PM
Air Force here. Not similar situation, really, but my wife and I just started playing (her for the first time) and my goal is to make a 10 man level 80 raiding guild. Should be a fun time. She is playing a priest, and I'm doing a warrior, so we already have a good basis for a 10 man group.
Good luck with your efforts, and god bless for getting the boots on the ground, or water, or air, or carpet.
Frijid Oct 6th 2008 3:26PM
Damn, can't Italicize it... or edit it. 6___6
Zali Oct 6th 2008 5:11PM
Yes, but you can always look back at all the fun you had trying to put it in italics and then edit it. Ahhh good times. Good times.
Jinee Oct 8th 2008 12:46AM
I'm also in the military currently deployed to Bulgaria and straight to Romania after I'm done here. I ended up finding a guild that raids CEST (central european standard time) so that I can continue raiding. I did the whole 2am thing and managed to get through BT and 1% on Kalecgos but it's not easy. Our GM simply did it by putting an ad in the Stars and Stripes as well as posting on all of the realm forums. The only problem that I've noticed with this format is that there is a disparage in skill. They all have good intentions but a good percentage aren't all that skilled. I hope that you have better luck in that regard.
SolidSneak Oct 7th 2008 12:57AM
Im in the Navy as well, AMAN(AW), and also have lost 6 months of wow play to the gulf. Im also a GM of a PvP guild on a new character I started when I came back from deployment.
Working in aviation, especially helo aviation, we dont get much free time during the week since we work 12+. I basically find the best people I can to run the guild for me, under my set guidelines. Im just the name of the GM, thats it. Im not even my Rogue class officer. Half my command also plays wow too, which is nice!
Anyway, it is difficult to find time to play or run a guild when you are in the service, but it is possible. Unfortunately for me though, it means missing out on content and sticking to PvP.
I know running a PvP guild is different from PvE, but I drew up a goal for my guild in the ginfo tab, our outlook and plans for WOTLK, and people stick around.
Be good out there man!
tainted Oct 7th 2008 8:36AM
I feel for the problems that this post is addressing. I'm also the founder of a newer WotLK raiding guild that will focus on 10-mans. We're on a smaller server and while we have the experienced and the core of players to base a guild around, we have trouble finding the "right fit" players to join us. Luckily so far I've been able to get in touch with some good, quality people that are going to give it a shot. It's not easy, though, and requires a lot of attention to the recruitment boards because of the number of guilds looking for the same kind of people.
Best of luck to Deployed and all the other new GM's out there who face these problems.
Zali Oct 7th 2008 9:11AM
Wow. This is the least posted to Officers Quarters that I've ever seen.
Wenon Oct 7th 2008 1:40PM
Not that its relevant but a guild based around "military personnel" would scare the shit out of me. Alltho I'd love the structure.
Anyway, as is hinted in the replies, the simple solution is to delegate the tasks down to available and trustworthy officers while you're busy doing army stuff.
I could see guilds where the GM neither is a class officer, raid organizer nor "core member" due to prior commitments etc as viable ifa GM then takes on a more idealistic role who gets reports of progress from raid officers, process information given from class officers and set goals for the guild.
Closest I can say I've been to that was my PvP guild who decided we wanted to start doing karazhan and ZA (10s) to gather badges for the isle rewards back when badge drops got buffed. Our GM, who really isn't a leader per say just a guild-holder, delegated resposibility for raid scheduling to a warlock in our guild who again organized us into raiding once or twice a week. Thats no small task in a dedicated PvP guild as it means mass-respeccing and thight schedules.
Either way, the GM said that we should be finishing ZA within a month, giving us little time to wipe, yet making it a challenge yet doable (both of which we pvpers enjoy ;) ). And that worked out sweet.
Sean Dec 7th 2008 8:19PM
I've been bouncing around for some time now trying to find a good guild to raid with. I currently play on Argent Dawn, but may be willing to transfer if I find a good group of players who use guild chat, understand that people have lives, but would also like to raid regularly (at least the 10 man content for WotLK. I'm a military veteran and currently serve in the ANG, and as a gov civ. I'd be interested in learning more about your guild - what is the name/server?
Thanks.