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10-08-2008 @ 5:10PM
Great idea!!!No more slogging through trash for 45 minutes before getting to a boss. What's the purpose of the trash mobs anyway?
10-08-2008 @ 5:41PM
The point of trash mobs is to give a chance at earning some rep (for raids that award rep), a way to offset repair bills, and allow for some lesser epics to be distributed. If you kept the random epics from trash and just them on the bosses table, you would either get 10 epics from the boss, or each item would drop less often. As any tank can atest to, Kings Defender already drops rarely enough.And as someone else already stated - goody more welfare epics for the lazy wow player. Just what we need.I would be more interested in this if we could use it to test bosses, as in I take my ten-man group and choose patchwork and go to town on him as a warmup/practice for a real raid.
10-08-2008 @ 6:15PM
Pacing, perhaps context/flavour, time investment and something to work trough before reaching the climax of an area.Respawns also deter unsuccessful groups from attempting something over and over, normally it's taken as a sign to stop and maybe work on things before running into the same brick wall again....... also rep and trash epics.I would not remove trash, in some places I would perhaps modify or replace those which are particularly mind-numbing, but I don't think it's a bad thing that they are there.However, the idea of a PvE Pit does sound quite good, I would love to see what kind of fun they can put behind it. They could even bracket it too, 3 man encounters, or even 2.But one thing we learned from putting people in a ranked environment is they start to QQ even more hardcore about their viability in those situations, this is why we can't have nice things. :(
10-08-2008 @ 6:16PM
The true point of trash is pacing. Rep and Trash epics are simply a method of making trash less painful.If you had no trash in BT, the instance would take an hour or so, and frankly, wouldn't feel very epic. Also, the content would have probably havebeen cleared within days of release...The only people that are annoyed by trash are those that generally don't have the time to progress raiding in the first place. This would be an awesome type of gameplay for those folks!
10-08-2008 @ 7:55PM
"... people that a... generally don't have the time to progress raiding in the first place. This would be an awesome type of gameplay for those folks!"I dunno, this would seem like a major shortcut and if it dropped badges then no one would take the time to get a group and run the instance the way it was meant to be. Why go through the trash mobs or the headache of getting together 25 people when 5 of you can repeat over and over and over till you have all the boss drops and badges you could ever want. T6 would take hours instead of weeks to month to even years. People would be uber in the space of a sunday afternoon. Born would be the 5-man guild.
10-09-2008 @ 7:33AM
also trash allows you to use some of your abilities that bosses are immune to!
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