Scattered Shots: Getting started with talents in 3.0.2 as a Beast Mastery Hunter
Welcome to Scattered Shots, where Daniel Whitcomb is doing a special happy dance over that whole Aspect global cooldown removal thing.Before we get into the meat of this week's column, I have a confession to make. I was tempted to make a very short column that consisted primarily of a recording of me making squealing noises that you would generally only expect to come from a giddy schoolgirl, punctuated by a bit of gibberish that might sound something like "Aspect of the Dragonhawk."
But that said, there's a lot of other things I could talk about, and I won't leave you hanging. It's a busy time in WoW, and Hunters have a lot of stuff to do now that 3.0.2 is out. By now, hopefully, your server has calmed down enough for you to get on, play around with learning all your companions and mounts, and start trying to figure out talent specs. Hopefully by now, you've seen some of our articles on the subject, such as Big Red Kitty's Hunter and Pet Talent overviews, and David Bowers' guide to exotic pets currently available in game. They're great resources, so I'm not going to attempt to replicate them here. Instead, I'm gonna focus on a quick and pertinent question:
You've finally found some time to play WoW, your server's stable enough to let you play WoW, and you've just logged on your Beastmastery Hunter for the first time since 3.0.2 went live. What do you do?
On Talents
Like I said, if you're just looking for a quick overview of talents, we have a few great articles on that already. But we here at WoW Insider headquarters have been hearing quite a few of you say, "Hey man, I think I burned out all of brain cells on BlizzCon and I'm just not up to analyzing talents right now. What specs can you give me that are grab and go?"
We have heard, and now we deliver. Here's a Beastmastery spec that I'm using, and that I think serves pretty well for farming and small group content and will double as a decent leveling spec through Wrath of the Lich King. It gives up a bit of DPS in return for making your pet a bit more versatile and hardier, but it has a lot of good toys too. Invigoration (helped by Cobra Strikes) and Aspect Mastery should help you keep in the mana, and Longevity makes sure your pet is dishing out the damage and the threat as quickly as possible.
If you're more interesting in group DPS... Well, raiding's a little easy right now overall, but you can definitely still go for a more classic raid build, shedding some of the HP and armor talents for something closer to this build. It's worth noting, though, that a lot of Hunters are shedding Improved Aspect of the Hawk lately, myself among them. It's just too easy to cap your Steady Shot cast time at 1.5 seconds flat, at which point you're probably better off getting AP and crit to increase your white damage rather than haste. If you're not much for haste gear yet, you might still find the talent useful though -- and admittedly, it is the only damage boosting talent on tier 1 regardless, if you're not into having more health.
Pet Talents
So now you have your talents done up, you need to deal with your pet, whether it be an old standby, or a new one you tamed just for the patch. If you're still deciding which type of pet to get, I'd recommend again that you check out our Exotic Pet Guide and Big Red Kitty's beta pet videos.
In a nutshell, you have the three types: Tenacity, which are high health and armor pets that will do you good if you like having your pet tank, Ferocity pets, which are great if you just want to tear through enemies and don't mind throwing out a couple extra mend pets, and Cunning, which can get a few nice little utility abilities and does some alright DPS.
Now myself, I'm going with Tenacity for the most part, specifically a worm when Wrath of the Lich King comes out. Those Jormungar are pretty cool, the Acid Spit is a nice DPS boost, and there's level 70 worms waiting to be tamed in the Borean Tundra. For now, I'm sticking with Bonnie, my old Razorfen Kraul Boar, just for old times sake. As far as a good, solid, Tenacity build, here's what I'm going for. This is a nice solid level 70 Beastmastery build that provides a little bit of extra protection for my pet through Great Stamina and Grace of the Mantis. Cobra Reflexes and Spiked Collar mean her damage won't be too low. Guard Dog has cut my food costs down to nearly zero on beta, so that's practically a required talent, and I've put taunt on a hotkey so I can get my pet to peel monsters off me immediately when I get those massive crit strings.
Now I do have my good old Dire Raven Ferocity pet, and I've still been playing around with him a bit too. Here's the level 70 build he's using for those times when I feel like I need a bit more DPS. Dive (Dash for land pets) means he gets to the target faster, and pumping up damage talents means he'll maximize his DPS. Heart of the Phoenix provides some quick emergency recovery, which he may need give his lack of survival-focused talents.
Cunning is honestly not for me. I'm sure there's people who'll like it though, but the talent tree depends a bit too much on too many "if/then" statements for me to be too enamoured of it. Still, it does have its strong points, and if I was looking for a Cunning build, I'd probably go something like this. It takes a bit more maintenance, as you have to remember to use Carrion Feeder to keep your pet happy, but Roar of Recovery should mean you won't have to switch to Aspect of the Viper and lose precious damage so often.
Heading out into the world
So with your talents chosen and your ammo pouch refilled, you should be ready to strike out and start earning achievements, leveling inscription, farming stuff for your Death Knight alt, or whatever else it is you decide to do in the month left until Wrath of the Lich King. Here's a few last minute reminders of other things that might be a bit different:
- Throw out that Steady Shot/Kill Command macro. Not only does Steady Shot not clip Auto Shot anymore, but Kill Command is no longer triggered on dodge, but is instead a long cooldown ability that gives your pet a temporary damage boost for its next 3 special attacks.
- Make sure you use Aspect of the Viper sparingly. It cuts into your damage in order to give you mana regeneration, and you're only hurting yourself if you leave it on when you don't need mana.
- Watch your Auto Shot. I haven't heard for sure if it's been fixed or will ever be fixed, but I have been hearing reports that if you open a battle by jumping straight into spamming Steady Shot, your Auto Shot never gets a chance to start up. So you may want to get an Auto Shot off, then start dishing out your special shots.
Filed under: (Hunter) Scattered Shots, Hunter, Patches, Analysis / Opinion, Tips, Expansions, Talents, Wrath of the Lich King






Reader Comments (Page 1 of 3)
Farfromout Oct 17th 2008 11:09AM
I heard wow had 9/10 classes.
Robert M Oct 17th 2008 11:13AM
It does, but with all the huntards out there, doesn't it stand to reason they could use the most guidance?
James Oct 17th 2008 11:21AM
You might want to complain to your class's colum writers.... dont hate just because the hunter columists take care of us.
Special thanx to:
Daniel Whitcomb (Scattered Shots)
Daniel Howell (Big Red Kitty)
Farfromout Oct 17th 2008 11:59AM
I hope my class column writers are reading this!
Or not just my class, every class column except hunters!
Kadaa Oct 17th 2008 11:15AM
Cunning pets are actually pretty nice for soloing (I use a Chimaera specifically, so that I dont have to worry about slowing them myself). I mainly got in for the intention of raiding, based off of Roar of Recovery and Owls Focus. However when we blasted through BT last night with full raid buffs, I was never down more than 1k mana at a time (unless we were AOE pulling entire rooms at once. Volley ftw).
pudds Oct 17th 2008 11:18AM
IMO, the mana returns from Invigoration aren't worth the talent points, nor are the points in Cobra Strikes.
Because both of them are keyed off of specials (Steady, Arcane, Kill Shots, and pet specials), they're alot less impressive than they seem at first glance.
For a hunter with ~30% crit, Cobra Strikes is only going proc off of around ~18% of Steadies. That just doesn't seem work it.
Combine that with the fact that Invigoration requires a critical pet special, and the proc rate outside of Cobra Strikes goes down significantly.
Overall, I'd say that talenting Spirit Bond and Kindred Spirits is a much better return for the point investment.
Additionally, not putting at least one point in Go For the Throat is definite mistake. You want one for sure, 2 if your crit is somewhat lacking. Do do that, you sacrifice an exotic pet, but the minor DPS increase of an exotic won't make up the difference.
pudds Oct 17th 2008 11:23AM
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=cebMztgRmu0goL0eMb Seems like a better build to me.
Points in Mortal Shots could be moved to Focused Aim if not hit capped, and 1 point from Go for the Throat can be moved to Kindred Spirits if crit is high enough.
Granted though, this isn't the build I plan to use for leveling, just for the next month at 70.
misk Oct 17th 2008 12:30PM
yep
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=cebMztgRmu0goL0eMb
Is a much better build. As a beastmaster you really don't want to be going without "Go for the Throat."
Keeping your pet's focus up is critical. Especially if you like tanks pets.
Michael Oct 17th 2008 1:19PM
My Cobra Strikes procs all the time when I'm spamming Steady Shot and Arcane.
Bad Mojo Oct 17th 2008 11:19AM
I know I'm going for the full 51-point BM talents, so I'm trying to figure out my 70 build for soloing.
So my question:
No love on Kindred Spirits?
Farfromout Oct 17th 2008 11:19AM
Robert M, you are right.
You make a very good point, there must be 90% of hunters out there who havent a clue, there for, this is the website for them!
Robert M Oct 17th 2008 11:26AM
Hey,
These articles are just a pleasant reminder that there are some hunters who can actually read, which I still find nearly impossible to believe.
Heard there was a rumor that the first hunter posts were done with all pictures and smilies.
James Oct 17th 2008 11:48AM
QQ
hahahahahahaha
Lashay Oct 17th 2008 11:32AM
Wow, someone sounds a little butthurt that their class isnt being covered as much as they would like.
Farfromout Oct 17th 2008 12:06PM
Its not really that, I mean, Paladins have been getting alot of coverage of late.
Hunters are just so bloody boring, especially with a new update every 5 minutes from BRK about some new pet... Yeah Yeah, Bothered.
Would be nice to read some news that wasnt about a hunter, thats all.
Oh, and I have hunters at like 60 from the days when they were fun, first time around. Shadow Meld + aimed Shot anyone?
Falcio Oct 17th 2008 12:59PM
Farfro: Understandable that you don't want to read an article about a Hunter. So, why did you look at and POST in the Hunter column?
Fascinating logic you use.
You're just illiciting rage and nothing else. It's not hard to ignore an article if you don't want to read it. I'm guessing once Wrath comes out and hundreds of Death Knight articles are posted, you'll say there are too many DK articles, then? Or is this just some rage at Hunters exclusively?
muffin_of_chaos Oct 17th 2008 1:53PM
@Falcio:
No, Farfro's got a good point. Hunters and Paladins have been dominating the posts, which is kind of annoying, and where else to post his complaint than to the column that perpetuates the problem?
I have a Hunter and a Paladin, so it's all good for me, but I can see how it would be annoying to others. Not that WoW Insider has to care, it's their time/energy.
By the way, I know *I* for one am going to be very annoyed at the number of Death Knight articles out there. But then, those will make more sense because pretty much everyone who reads WoW Insider will have a Death Knight...very few will have a Hunter.
So yeah. About that whole logic thing.
Falcio Oct 17th 2008 2:27PM
You can't exactly blame them for posting about them, Muffin. Hunters and Pallies are the classes that have had the most notable changes so far in the latest patch. Ret Pallies are killing things a whole lot now and becoming hugely popular throughout WoW, while Hunters got new pets with new talents that require a different approach to master. What was a good pet last week isn't as good this week [Cat] and what wasn't a good pet is so popular now. [Gorilladin]
You can't blame WI for posting more about them in the first week or so. If they keep posting them, then sure, that'd be a problem...
And no, there is no logic in complaining about too many Hunter topics in a Hunter column. All he's done the past few days was post in Hunter topics complaining about it. It's not helping at all.=/
And yes, even though my main is a Hunter, I wouldn't want this place to be Hunter central. I got BRK to read for that and such. But I'm not going to complain when another class gets more topics later on. Especially not in their own column.
Teldra & Oni Oct 17th 2008 11:39AM
Not going 12 points into MM to grab Go for the Throat is a huge, huge mistake. Those crazy cool 51 point exotic pets will do very little damage if they have no focus. You can turn claw/bite off autocasting which will help - but it will also nerf your damage a lot. Not turning it off will deplete your focus and exclude spcials from happening -also depleting your damage.
The exotic pets *will* be great at 72 when you can sustain their focus - but not until then.
Flint Oct 17th 2008 12:00PM
But the talent that gives the exotic pets also gives four additional pet talent points that are worth their weight in gold (a thing many seem to forget), with or without Go for the Throat.