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10-19-2008 @ 12:42AM
Battlegrounds in general have been wrecked by this patch. I think it's mostly temporary, but this was a rough week for sure...First there are tons and tons of brand-new 70s who don't seem to know what's going on, so they simply fight the first enemy they see (when they're not wandering around uselessly). Next there are old-timers who haven't played in a while, and refuse to acknowledge that there have been more than a few patch-changes to battlegrounds throughout TBC (many of the "old ways" do NOT work anymore...get over it). Then there's the crowd who clearly have not PvP'd much at all, but want to try it out because of all the new changes (ESP. achievements, but I'll get to that).Finally, there's the rest of us who spend a lot of time in BGs in general, only now are more interested in testing out their new abilities against as many enemies as possible- to heck with ANY objectives or thoughts of winning (I know it's only a game, but I'd rather win the ones I play...if you wanna just d*ck around, visit STV or something) Those are the folks botching things up, but the game itself? These achievements are a HUGE distraction; I've come across several groups looking to get those defending achievements done...and I thought WSG was painful before...Yes, some achievements are in line with game-objectives; but it's turned into a ME ME ME ME ME parade...i don't want a lock running the flag when a druid is right there (i love my lock...but he's no good for that job)... The next change hasn't really been talked about, but when you look at WHO is in these BGs, and all these things already making it difficult to succeed (win), this is a big one. The stat window in every BG has had the "bonus honor" in the far right column. It's now called "total honor"...it now tracks everyone's accumulated honor right up to the very end. Everyone sees what everyone else is getting (this is why we don't usually talk about salaries at work). SUDDENLY, farming hks is the thing to do above all else. suddenly, BG objectives are out the window, because "that guy fighting in the middle got 30 more honor than i did...I'm not gonna run/defend the flag anymore"...so the remaining few DOING what it takes to win are tempted to bail, leaving everyone with a loss; people will give up hundreds of honor to keep someone else from getting just a few more than them. Silly? yep. Childish, selfish? yep. Are AVs filled with battles in the field of stife, WSG in mid-field, EotS everywhere BUT at towers? In my battlegroup, absolutely. (btw, AB seems to lend itself to these things- collect somewhere and fight- so other than an unprecedented frequency of flags being left undefended, it's almost business as usual there) I really really really hope this settles down a bit..i hope the newest crop of BG attendees pays attention, learns, listens up, gets those achievements out of their focus, and gets back to winning some games.
10-19-2008 @ 4:21AM
In addition to what you said, I also noticed a decrease of the number of healers in BGs, which may have to do with the new talent specs and objectives, with the objectives having more to do with killing than healing. Then again, it maybe the old stigma about the treatment of BG healers maybe getting to those healers again.
10-19-2008 @ 11:35AM
@thallid - I do pvp healing. Would you really want to run BGs with ret paladins the way you are? You can't heal anyone because either you're dead, or the person who you try to heal had died before the heal lands. There is really nothing for me to do in BGs at the moment
10-19-2008 @ 11:40AM
Oh, In addition I agree with the "me me me" thing. Anyone who heals in BGs does so because we like working towards the higher goal in a team effort. In EotS I'll heal an assault, and I'll heal defense. I will NOT heal the middle quagmire unless it will determine the outcome. And really with everyone testing things out, and achievements this is sort of counter to what healers go into BGs for.
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