Blood Pact: Affliction and Demonology in Patch 3.0.2

To top it all off, we're simply squishier than ever in PvP. We've lost Stamina, lowered survivability, and need to make major sacrifices in PvP if we're to pursue deep Affliction or Destruction. Thankfully, Blizzard recognized this and -- according to Ghostcrawler -- will be making an important change to Soul Link by increasing the damage absorbed to 20%. It will still be inacessible if we take 51-point talents at Level 70, but it should be alright by Level 80. Unfortunately, when we finally get there, we'll be sharing gear with lowlife Mages and Priests. I mean that literally -- those guys simply used to have lower life totals.
I tried out an Echoes of Doom version of SL/SL with Demonic Empowerment, Demonic Resilience, and Siphon Life for PvP but it simply wasn't viable. At Level 70, at least, I found that SL/SL no longer stood a chance against the incredible damage potential of the other classes. Retribution Paladins, particularly, deal such ridiculous burst damage that putting points in survivability is pointless. Pardon the irony. Clearly hybridization of this sort is no longer viable in the new age, and I hear the death knell of SL/SL, which I deeply mourn.
Affliction
Well, forget SL/SL. That clearly wasn't working for me. In this day and age of Arcane Barrage, Divine Storm, and Bladestorm, it's all about dishing out damage. So I went full 56 / 0 / 5 full Affliction and decided to focus on just dishing out some pain instead of trying to take it, even skipping over PvP talents entirely just so I could keep up with all this insane damage in the 3.0.2 world. The good news is that Affliction is incredibly fun. I know Ghostcrawler said in the same post as the Soul Link change that Warlock DPS isn't where it should be, and I'm glad that we're getting passive buffs. Shadow Mastery for 15% more Shadow damage? Nom nom nom nom!
Affliction is hauntingly beautiful. The tree feels so synergistic for me and coupled with Glyph of Corruption stacking with Nightfall, it feels like I can spam Shadow Bolts more than ever. Because of this, I slapped on Glyph of Shadow Bolt, too, although I never quite run out of mana with this spec. Haunt is phenomenally fun, and I've been scrambling for more crit gear just to squeeze more out of Pandemic. Damage output feels good, natural, and synergistic with many talents in the tree. The new Spellstones are brilliant, and I think I'm going to save money off not ever having to buy mana oils again.
In PvE, the spec feels great. I press lots of buttons, slowly getting my rotation in order, end up doing whopper damage. I cheat in Mount Hyjal because it's just a Seed of Corruption fest and getting haste from my spellstone and Eradication procs only means I can keep spamming it that much faster. It crits quite a bit, too, because of Improved Corruption. But Affliction damage on bosses is pretty awesome, too because the length of the fight just lets the periodic damage just get stronger and stronger, thanks to Everlasting Affliction. I'm not going to throw out any numbers here because I just don't have them right now, but I'll say that playing Affliction right now is about the most fun I've had in a long time.
The only real caveat is in PvP, because going full Affliction with 5 points in Bane means I have about as much survivability as a wet tissue paper. I skipped the move impairing abilities because I'll tell you right now that they're useless in PvP in the current environment. Classes simply have too many abilities to counter kiting and the one class that's easy to kite -- the Paladin -- can instagib me. Affliction is not about survivability right now. That is still the domain of Demonology.
Demonology
Let's face it, players dive into the Demonology tree just for survivability. With the loss of SL/SL, the best way to get some measure of protection against the banes of our class is to get the half-baked Metamorphosis (here we go). I hate Metamorphosis. It epitomizes exactly what's wrong with the Demonology tree right now. The 51-point talent is a half-baked ability that helps us escape the crunch of melee, as well as gives us a massive armor boost -- it's excellent for PvP. In fact, aside from the 20% damage boost, it feels very much like a PvP talent.
So... why on earth do we get Challenging Howl? Exactly when will we need to AoE tank? Challenging Howl is so narrowly useful that I feel like it's a complete waste of an ability. We certainly don't ever want to use it in a raid, 600% armor notwithstanding. Then there's Demon Charge, which is an awesome stun, but the classes we have trouble with and want to stun are the classes we want to get away from. I don't know why I would want to charge towards a Rogue, a Warrior, or -- demons forbid -- a Retribution Paladin. What am I supposed to do when I get to them? Shadow Cleave? Why? So they can unleash Kiling Spree, Bladestorm, or Divine Storm on my demon ass, probably. In PvE, I'm not about to charge a boss and start whacking away at him, am I?
The best ability as a demon is Immolation Aura, which deals excellent damage but again -- and this really boggles me -- I need to be in melee range for it to work. Metamorphosis transforms us from a ranged class to a melee class for 30 seconds. It's a complete paradigm shift that's unnecessary and clumsy. The only great part of this spell for PvE is the 20% bonus to damage, which we can work into our DPS cycle at least once per fight. One workable use is to sacrifice either the Succubus or the Imp for the duration of Metamorphosis for all-out damage.
Still, when we do this, we won't be using any of the abilities as a demon! When we've sacrificed our pet and start spamming Shadow Bolts and cycle through our spells, we won't be touching any of the unique demon abilities because it will drop our DPS significantly. I'm upset about this talent because I seriously can't figure it out. It had the potential to be one of the coolest spells in the game, but instead it's just confusing. If you guys manage to use this successfully in raids, or even PvP against melee classes, feel free to discuss in the comments below.
Furthermore, there are no other active ways to increase our pet's crit rating other than to invest points in Improved Demonic Tactics. Why isn't there a crit version of Sporeling Snack or Kibler's Bits? With full Demonic Empathy and Demonic Pact, we want to have our pet crit scale somehow. We want the Demonic Pact buff to be competitive other spell buffs with which it won't stack.
The Demonology tree feels a little wanting to me right now, and I'm willing to place it on the possibility that I probably just need to learn2play. I want to try out Demonology some more but it hasn't been as fulfilling for me in Patch 3.0.2 as Affliction has. In the next Blood Pact, we'll take a look at Destruction, Warlock Glyphs, and other niggling things.
Filed under: Warlock, Analysis / Opinion, Talents, (Warlock) Blood Pact, Wrath of the Lich King






Reader Comments (Page 1 of 4)
Syyko Oct 23rd 2008 7:32PM
First!
TJourney Oct 23rd 2008 7:42PM
No! You mustn't discourage the Warlocks of the world from speccing into Metamorphosis!
Don't listen to him! Metamorphosis is the best talent ever! You must spec into it and activate it whenever you are near me in a BG!
/cast Turn Evil
/cast Turn Evil
/cast Turn Evil
(but yeah, Metamorphosis Warlocks are by far my favorite matchup in PvP as a Holy Paladin. I relish the opportunity to fight them, fear them, and kill their pet as they run around wildly)
Heilig Oct 23rd 2008 7:57PM
Don't forget Exorcism and Holy Wrath (instacast 4 second stun). Fun is had by all (except the lock).
Radiophonic Oct 24th 2008 4:55AM
I love banishing demo locks bwahahaha
Numinous Oct 23rd 2008 7:44PM
Having levelled up Demonology all the way, I've just respecced Affliction, and it rocks. Against multiple targets I am dishing out so much damage it should be illegal.
I miss my Felguard, though.
Evi Oct 23rd 2008 8:47PM
I could have written this post myself. I really enjoy demonology, but I'm just not feelin' it right now. My warlock is affliction for the first time in years.
I know it probably seems petty, but it does bother me that there is no female demon form. I have a girl warlock. I want a girl demon. :(
Sayce Oct 24th 2008 9:59AM
I have to say ditto. Though honestly, I didn't have felguard for long and he felt squishier to me than what I remember seeing with other locks' felguards.
That said, when I barely have time to cast all of my dots on targets several levels above me before they are dead... that's a LOT of fun :-D
TalentedHack Oct 23rd 2008 7:46PM
Decent roundup of those two trees. The only thing you really missed in affliction is the somewhat buggy state of pandemic not benefitting from Imp Scorch and its ilk and Shadow Embrace only going to one warlock. Those are excusable since, after all, they'll be fixed. What I haven't heard a peep about from GC yet is the debuff limit and how Afflocks tend to eat up, oh, seven of those 40 slots.
Your demo knowledge needs a little work though. I've had some experience with 0/46/15 and found its DPS to be much easier to maintain. This one's a pure CoA > Corruption > Immo > SB spam spec, but it seems pretty jazzy. I guess some might call it the 0/21/40 of 3.0.2.
I'd still vote for affliction over demo in 10 mans come WotLK, as the challenge is one of those rare ones that I find rewarding. However, with the dusty old debuff system that hasn't been updated since somewhere around AQ/Naxx, I will sure as hell be fishing for a different spec for 25s
Zach Oct 23rd 2008 7:50PM
Heya. Can you link me that build? Most that I've tried for Demonology is full 61... which might've been overkill. I'd like to try out a different spec for Demonology that I hope will work.
You don't have a build that gets Metamorphosis? Am I right on the money about it sucking?
Calin Oct 23rd 2008 7:47PM
All lies - There is at least a 50% gain in survivability from going full Demo - which takes you from being able to survive from 1 second to 1.5!
Secondly, Metamorphosis is great, the missing text from the description of the spell is that the graphic for Demon form is so utterly horrid that it forces everyone within range to look away in abhorrent disgust. Perhaps they fear that staring at it might transform them back in time a decade or so, when the model for demon form would have fit in.
/Sarcasm off
Regards,
Calin
AFFLICTION Warlock
Zach Oct 23rd 2008 7:51PM
Don't forget that there isn't a female version of the form. =p All female Warlocks are forced to become Illidan-wannabes.
Tumleren Oct 23rd 2008 7:47PM
In before QQ over nerfs
Vorpal Oct 23rd 2008 7:51PM
Warlocks look abit underpowered.. compared to other classes that is, some people keep saying the classic l2p thingie, true - maybe.. to some degree but truth is that the pvp environment for a lock nowdays looks hellish.
I only tried demonology so far, and my thoughts match yours one hundred percent.. and demonform sure is very clumsy.
Going to respecc full destro tonight tho, i wonder how viable it is for pvp.....
Let's wait and see..hopefully things will get better in WoTLK.. or to some patch after the actual expansion(sigh).
Alaw Oct 24th 2008 6:34PM
Full destro in T5 gear sucks ass. I'm only beating my group's healer in DPS most of the time. This is in direct contrast to me pwning everyone in DPS and damage prior to this patch.
Thanks, Blizz. I only have this toon so when it sucks I have to settle for the lesser fun of zombifying Shatt.
Hendrata Oct 23rd 2008 7:56PM
I actually found Metamorphosis quite useful for farming. Finally I can do what I used to do with my mage.
While mounted, I gather all mobs until I get 5 or 6 of them. Pop demon form (which will dismount me). Immolation Aura. If the mobs are rather strong, I also use Rain of Fire.
This way, I can kill 6 mobs just like that, and usable once every 3 minutes. While waiting for the cooldown, I:
1. Use healthstone to restore health/mana, and recreate healthstone.
2. Kill mobs manually.
I found that I can farm very efficiently, but true it's not as good against boss in PvE or melee in PvP
ext Oct 23rd 2008 7:51PM
About Metamorphosis... I have to say that Demon Charge is an excellent ability against many classes, specifically healers and other casters. Nothing feels better than charging at a healer and interrupt their heals, fearing them right after. It can even be useful against mele classes when you can charge at them and stun them for a long enough period of time to cast off an extra fear without getting ripped into pieces. As for Emolation Aura... this is also great against clothies. Just because your armor is way up there doesn't mean that you have to jump on a mele class. Of course there are a few things that can be improeved, but overall this is a great talent for PVP which gave me an ability to survive a rogue/warrior attack and possibly eventually win. I just wish it lasted longer and the Demon Charge had a faster cooldown which would let me use it more then once while in form.
Rochmoninoff Oct 23rd 2008 7:53PM
I'm a rogue and I look for Metamorphosis Warlocks in BGs.
They're so confused they don't know whether to walk to work of carry their lunch.
It's hard to use like winning the Shartuul (Crystalforged Rune) Fight is hard. Complete paradigm shift from normal fighting style. New Icons & Abilities. It fries their brains.
And then I stun them and kill them.
It's cool looking, sure.
But for Warlocks it's a "I LOSE" button.
Needs complete rework.
Arkanhell Oct 24th 2008 9:43AM
Hi there,
lol, It's quite weird other classes want Meta changed, makes me think it's not a waste talent at all.
Every class has it's group of ppl that simply don't know how to play it right. As a demon warlock I just love Meta, especially when I find a group of caster in PVP. Meta is a BIG "I am here" sign, so we are not supposed to go into melee groups as demom form. PvE is easier now, since I can take out big group easily. Demon Lock is the most fun talent-class to play in WoW IMO. Rogues are easy to kill, so stay hide you coward.
Rochmoninoff Oct 24th 2008 11:27AM
If you like Meta and know how to use it effectively - bravo!
I've never beaten Shartuul myself but I've seen a couple of other players walk right through it. Those players got the new abilities and strategies - an amazing demonstration of skill.
I think that Meta is similar. It is a big boost, but it's so different from routine Lock play that it throws them off their game.
Maybe soon more Locks will figure out how to use it and like you will be a threat to rogues soon.
See you in Alterac Valley!
-Rochmoninoff
Azizrael Oct 23rd 2008 7:52PM
I'm loving Affliction more than ever. CoE/CoA, siphon life, corruption, haunt, UA, life tap, imp. drain soul - you can take down almost anything and get a nice mana return plus heals regularly in excess of 1k every 20 seconds or so. Survivability is great so long as you keep killing things.