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10-25-2008 @ 1:39PM
"How do you cater to more casual guilds that wouldn't be interested in raid-type achievements? Do you cater to them at all?"I would like to point out an interesting phenomenon here--we seem to believe that casuals should be catered to. I'm particularly glad that something as inane as the achievement system is finally here to high light it. If you stack up achievements, for the most part you don't really get anything amazing out of it. It's strictly for vanity at this point.In my own guild we have a number of people who are so religiously chasing down achievements that many are running old world raids again, completing obscure quest lines in Azeroth, and spending countless hours riding all over the place. For my own part I'm reasonably disinterested in the achievements, with the exception of a few quirky ones.With that in mind, I suppose you could say I am a 'casual' achiever surrounded by the 'hardcore'. Does this mean i am entitled to the same achievement points, rewards, etc as my more rabidly OCD guild mates?Absolutely not. Talk about a welfare state mentality--if you dont' put in the same effort, you don't deserve the same rewards. No where else in life is the world set up this way, the game shouldn't be either.Casuals do not need to be catered to.
10-25-2008 @ 1:54PM
agreed... a 'casual' achievement isn't an achievementbut... the beauty of achievements is the majority of them are attainable by a 'casual' player... all you need to do is waste enough time doing something and viola, achievement...vanity badge ftwI think that if guild achievements existed, they shouldn't impart any benefit to the guild as a whole... it would be horribly unfair that just because some people you share a guild with killed end-of-the-world uber-boss that you should get a title -savior of mankind-Guild achievements should be achievements of the guild as a whole"Guild Raid Clear""legendary loot""X guild heroics cleared""X guild BGs won" (i would guess that it would have to be calculated that your 5man guild group participated in a BG that you won)if your guild cleared the instance with the help of another guild... that wasn't an accomplishment of your guild and I don't think you should get credit for it...If you want the accomplishment, make a guild that can accomplish the task
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