Paladins nerfed on the beta

Most of the changes are centering around the Retribution tree. Some are pretty crazy, like Seal of Corruption dealing holy damage, and Divine Storm dealing physical damage. There is no indication if these changes will make it into patch 3.0.3 or arrive in a later update.
There's a couple of other changes that stick out for me.
- Seal of Command lost about 20% of it's overall damage
- Most other seals were reduced by around 13% to 21%
- Judgement of the Wise grants 15% of base mana instead of 33%
- Most other judgement effects are reduced by about 15%
- Art of War was retooled to increase damage of Judgement, Crusader Strike, and Divine Storm instead of increasing critical strike damage
And finally, Blessing of Might now increases AP by 306. It used to be 305. So it's not a total nerf...
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Reader Comments (Page 7 of 7)
Zaeefly Oct 26th 2008 2:41AM
From now on when GhostCrawler says something I will take it literally.
Angus Oct 26th 2008 3:17AM
Wait,
so my THREAT is being NERFED because of RET?
WHAT?!?!?!
Hate to tell the brilliant devs, but there is more than 1 damn spec.
I am enjoying actually being able to solo some quests I never bothered with before for dailies because they used to take forever. Now I'm getting hit with the nerf bat and my threat will suffer, which means the raid has to lower dps which is bad.
This is really dumb.
Yep, ret was powerful.
So what. Nerfing the entire class so holy (already the worst off for trying to solo of any healer) now is even worse and prot is going to have less threat is dumb.
Bloodthirst is probably doing too much, but meh, we're good with that is said around the same time they nail paladins. They admit elemental is horribly underpowered until level 75 too and won't fix that. But let a paladin be overpowered until level 75? Nope, can't have that.
I swear, they really need to stop listening to Kalgan's whiny arena partners.
AJ Oct 26th 2008 12:43PM
I think maybe now is the time to focus on my alts like my 70 hunter and rolling a new DK come 11/13. I'll probably still log on my Ret Pally for dailies and herbing/mining round outland to help pay for new gear. Maybe in 3 - 6 months they'll have either fixed or unhobbled Ret. Never was much for getting whaled on as Prot. Most of us leveled to 70 as Ret pariahs. I heal more than many in bg's but don't want that to be my primary mission nor do I want to have to have 3 sets of gear in the bank...
So its back to semi-retirement for meh pally and hello to all my other toons who will get some more attention in the mean time. Hope that blizz finds a sweet spot for pallies of all 3 flavors, but not holding my breath nor expecting it.
dean.speedway Oct 26th 2008 7:56AM
I tell you what though, i'm gonna make hay while the sun shines.
Gonna pull my level 62 holy pally off the shelf, re-spec to Ret and get as much levelling done as i can before the nerf comes in. And if i get to 70 before that I'm gonna go stomp some Resto Druids!
To the ground!!!! mwahahhahahahahaa!
Pezo Oct 26th 2008 8:38AM
To all Paladin haters, and to the ones who want to find out why paladins got this buff watch, search for this:
DBRHP on www.youtube.com
Then you fucking come and tell us when to nerf us... For example, Druids can: Melee dps, caster dps, tank and heal. Just like paladins, and actually these are getting BUFFED. So l2p all who cant beat a paladin, if you know your class then you can beat them. And stop writing to GM about nerfing a class when you got owned, l2p. Palas forever
Stillborn Oct 26th 2008 10:10AM
"lolret" for another two.
Seriously, you all knew it was coming... and I for one have a broken give-a-damn button to all the QQ'ers... I'm glad Blizz finally realized their mistake with the Ret tree and fixed it. Be happy with what you got, you got a new ability swing and wings no longer causes forbearance... that in and of itself if a major change from pre-patch.
And everyone yelling "we're not OP at 80, we're balanced... level 80 is what its all about" No, not really... you could still blow people up at 80 like you can now so you're not balanced and it looks like blizzard agrees hence the change.
Get over it, stop crying... and to those I know who re-rolled for FotM -- I hate to say I told you so.
D.O.T. Oct 27th 2008 4:07PM
Spoken like someone who wanted free HK kills over a paladin or an easier leveling grind in PVE.
maell Oct 27th 2008 12:02AM
Speaking as a Shockadin, which I thought had finally become a viable build, I am deeply concerned by the nerfing of mana regen. Not a problem in PvE or dungeons when you have time to sit and drink (sitting next to the mage), but in a PvP 1on1s your mana pool dropped to useless in no time, especially if your opponent had any kind of healing ability, leaving you to tap at them with your little hammer in the hopes that you might knock a couple of hp off (not so easy with a kiting hunter).
Pallies ought to be the most versitile class in the game, but I fear this nerf is gonna result in manaless shockadins, like a Sherman tank using its gun barrel as a melee weapon.
D.O.T. Oct 27th 2008 4:06PM
Instead of nerfing pallies, go buff the other classes that are always crying. Stop focusing on Paladins all the time and nerfing them - go nerf all the others first. God knows they deserve it since they're seriously over powered. Why are they're allowed to stay as it?
They didn't want ret two shotting people? Ha ha ha. So it's okay to get two shotted by other classes? Hypocrites.
Nyksone Oct 29th 2008 1:09AM
Right...
I am playing as a retri paladin for lev 1. Don’t ask me why, I just know it’s for me. It happened many times that other players were aggressive, insulting only because I was retri... so? It was my choice...
It happened that after instance or raid people changed their minds, and I could proof my place in a Team. That was before new Talent Tree. It was hard, but also It meaned that I was unique. After 3.x.x come to life everything changed. I was really enjoying, especially on pvp. But now the God (Blizzard) taking it away... why? Is it my fault that I am now equal? Because now I can do some damage to Mage or Lock and now he cant kill me in one shot form distance? Is this is so bad?
Ok. Some people saying it overpowered? “Because we have bauble and few more things” ... Well bauble has 5! Min CLT and cant use any such skill for next 3 minutes... is this is overpowered? Why nobody say anything about rouge? He is not overpowered? When after patch 3.0.2 he gets to me I can’t move until I have few hp left...
Playing paladin especially as a retri mean something to me. I am not happy that so many people switch to retri those days and can’t really understand what they doing. Anyway I wish them to have lots of fun in this class/spec.
P.S.
I took me about a year and a half to get to lev 68 playing mostly on weekends so I felt like being awarded from blizzard for all those grim days... and now the taking candies away....
Regards.