Before the Explosive Shot nerf, soloing as Survival was tremendously fun.

Now, though, it's eclipsed by MM in both single- and multi-target DPS, and by BM in survivability (and DPS).

Surv needs something to make it a more-fun solo spec again. I'd love to see Explosive Shot brought back to a place where it's exciting to cast.

I do. But then I'm a survivaholic.

Nick S' reply illustrates exactly why I don't play in Beta tests of games that I'm sure I'll want to play in live form (and actually turned down a beta key for wrath for exactly that reason). I love Explosive shot, in its current form, as I've never had anything else to compare it with.

Sure, Survival dps is slightly lacklustre at the moment (but I am still topping the damage meters in current 10-man content). And there's a _lot_ of room for improvement; but it's still big fun, and the ability to chain trap indefinitely is certainly a boon in instance teams as well as solo.

ok, glad im not the only one who's found ES a bit... meh. I really love the tree, and I like the idea of ES, but it seems kinda low on the damage front. I'd love to see some revision of Surv. Maybe they'll doing something with the 41 point talent as they eluded too.