Preparing for Wrath Day 5: Dungeoneering and you
I can see that Adam's post yesterday was something of a graphical hit with readers, which frankly I am at something of a loss to reproduce. Stupid Adam with his stupid Photoshop. It's pictures you want? I got your pictures right here, pal. Did Adam get to see Arthas in a highly compromising position? An action shot, dare I say? Anyway, leaving aside that unpleasant little intrasite feud that will probably escalate and leave millions of people dead, I wanted to use today's Preparing for Wrath to remind people that some things, especially if you're a hardcore achievement bunny like me, are going to get a lot harder to do once Wrath goes live. I think we can all agree that Outland is going to empty faster than a Dave Matthews concert after the cops show up, so you're going to want to exploit the fact that most people are hanging around Shattrath with nothing to do.
Foremost among the things you're probably not going to be able to do (at least easily) on once Wrath hits? Outland dungeons. Warriors and Paladins will also want to be aware of a certain demographic shift that's going to affect the likelihood of their getting a group slot.
If you've still got Outland dungeons or heroics to get through for drops you want or to finish off the Outland Dungeon Hero and/or Outland Dungeonmaster achievements, it's going to get very hard to do these soon. About the most you can hope for is to catch the wave of Death Knights leveling through Outland and piggyback on their groups, but they're likely to skip the level 68-70 dungeons in favor of going to Northrend as early as possible, and I sincerely doubt most of them will be running Outland heroics anytime soon, if at all. Especially if you need the less-popular places like Mana-Tombs, Botanica, or Auchenai Crypts, now's the time to get them done. Advertise an achievement-driven group in LFG or /trade and knock off as many as you can; in my experience, that'll get a group faster than advertising for specific dungeons.
And a note concerning leveling your main versus leveling a Death Knight when Wrath hits: we ran a poll in early September about where people planned to head first, and if the results are accurate, the vast majority of people will be leveling their mains to 80 and rolling a Death Knight afterwards. I wasn't one of the first wave of players to hit the beta and came in after most of the initial players had finished with their mains and started leveling Death Knights en masse. It wasn't that unusual to participate in Northrend dungeon groups where the only non-Death Knight was me.If your main is a Warrior or a tanking/DPS Paladin, I would highly recommend leveling that toon through Northrend while the people rolling Death Knights are getting through Azeroth/Outland. If you leave your main sitting around while you work on a DK or an alt, the odds are very good that you're going to try leveling your main alongside waves of DK's hitting Northrend, which is going to make it a lot harder to get plate drops in dungeons, assuming you can get a group in the first place. Conversely, if your main is a healer or you're willing to respec for it, it's going to be absurdly easy to get groups. I hope I'm wrong on this, but that was the overall demographic trend I saw during beta and I expect a certain amount of it to stay true.
Are you ready for the challenges that await you in Northrend? WoW Insider has you covered with our 8-day guide to Preparing for Wrath. Also, check out our feature on AddOns new, old and outdated written especially with the expansion in mind.Filed under: Paladin, Warrior, Analysis / Opinion, Odds and ends, Instances, Expansions, Leveling, Death Knight, Wrath of the Lich King






Reader Comments (Page 1 of 2)
Haeln Nov 8th 2008 4:07PM
Very true. I rerolled completely a few days ago. Paladin + Priest female dwarf dual boxing action. I hope by the time I make it to Northrend I can get very skilled with both at once. "Want my healer? Gotta take that pally."
healy Nov 8th 2008 4:13PM
Is it just me or are healers in general going to be very, very scarce when Wrath hits? I have my faith in Blizz, but it just seems like there will be an overabundance of tanks/dps around. Any thoughts?
Muse Nov 8th 2008 4:34PM
Healers are going to be rare. Especially during the leveling process until dual specs come in. But even after that, with all the heal-capable classes having gotten huge upgrades to their 'hybrid' DPS potential, and the healing specs being a general "more of the same", a lot of the full-time TBC raiding healers are jumping ship. Especially the ones that were already close to burn-out.
Which isn't to say they *all* will, of course. You'll have some die-hard professional healers, and some very rookie converts of necessity, playing together in the beginning.
Jeff Nov 8th 2008 4:46PM
I've played DPS casters my entire "WoW Career" thus far (Started with a Warlock, then went to Mage... then went to Alliance and leveled another Mage, and all in the mean-time leveled a UD Priest, and Human Priest) and I'm thinking about trying to play a healer for Wrath. Just to try something different.
We'll see... my Human Priest right now is only level 40, so if I can get him to 58-60ish before Wrath then i'll just ride the wave of Death Knights and (hopefully) quickly make it to Northrend.
Robert Nov 8th 2008 4:59PM
There are people like me that simply enjoy healing more than any other role in groups/raids. Not a lot, but there are enough.
Plus, if/when dual specs come out, it will make it possible to level/solo well and still be able to heal.
zappo Nov 8th 2008 5:56PM
I think it depends. Healers can now level with a healing spec so I wouldn't be surprised to see more healers that aren't max level. Most in TBC would use some sort of dps spec and then go healing once they reached 70. That's not necessary anymore.
I honestly think I'd be more worried about dps using knockback attacks. If people continue to punt mobs away from the tank, and the tank can't keep agro, they will most likely go for the healer. I doubt many healers will put up with that crap for long and may simply opt not to join groups. Well that's my opinion, I guess we'll see how bad everything gets.
Chris Anthony Nov 8th 2008 6:10PM
I have a holy priest and a mage; my wife has a holy priest and a hunter. We're planning on pairing them up (priest-hunter, mage-priest) and staggering their leveling through Northrend. The way we figure it, we'll have no problem finding groups who need healers, and we can insist that we come as a pair so that both of our DPS characters are getting runs too. :)
Demosthenes Nov 8th 2008 4:18PM
How about we just come back at lvl 80 and run ourselves through the instances. I know i can carry myself through a few of the 60 instances well enough
Medved Nov 8th 2008 4:40PM
Mmmm...Thats why i rolled a healer in the first place, i love getting wisps for groups instead of spamming lfg....I can't wait for Wrath!
Ariandis Nov 8th 2008 4:54PM
As soon as it's possible, both my druid and sham will be taking resto as their second specs. They've both accumulated reasonably decent sets of healing gear, so they should be ready to go. Either of them can off-heal fairly well now, but as feral and enancement, they can't main heal. With the second specs, they should be versatile enough to get groups as whatever's needed. I just have to try to decide which of them is going to be levelled to 80 first!
Boogalo Nov 8th 2008 4:54PM
as a prot pally, i don't forsee having problems getting groups. i've spent a lot of time building a decent healing set. i've healed through heroice while still specced prot. the normal leveling dungeons should be no problem.
Random Cow Nov 8th 2008 4:57PM
For members of raid guilds leveling at least, I think the shortage is going to be tanks, not healers. Think about the numbers.
Typical raid: 3 tanks, 7-8 healers.
Now split up those 25 people and send them off to do 5 man dungeons. Assuming 1 tank and 1 healer per 5 man dungeon group, we have a numbers problem. We are 2 tanks short.
When people were leveling in BC, I started out Resto Druid, and wanted to spend more time in dungeons than outside questing. I got in to groups a bit, but didn't get nearly the amount of dungeon time I had envisioned.
Then I went feral.
Within a couple days, although my gear was pretty bad, I got in to all the dungeons I wanted and then some. After about a week, it was so good that literally within a minute or two of logging on, several whispers came in asking me to tank different runs. I was able to pick and choose, with almost no downtime.
I predict leveling in WotLK will be the same.
Jack Spicer Nov 8th 2008 5:24PM
If Blizzard ever implements dual specs, I believe that it will get easier to find a healer for a PuG, but it still won't be a breeze.
My thoughts are that you'll find a lot of the heal capable classes speccing a PvE dps spec, and a PvP dps spec, and you'll also still have a lot of people that will just refuse to heal under any situation.
Amaxe Nov 8th 2008 5:52PM
Well, if it comes to achievements, it could very well be what is happening now with vanilla instances... level 70s soloing and finding a group for the trickiest level 60 raids. I imagine it will be similar for outland with level 80s.
I don't think it need necessarily be a "rush to complete" in the last days.
I'm not sure what will be soloable and what won't be, but I found that I lacked the patience to do Stratholme, and I would guess the ones harder than that would be unsoloable.
I'm sure there will be similar rankings for BC instances come 80 where smaller and smaller numbers are needed
FoxOfWar Nov 8th 2008 5:56PM
After healing some low-level pugs on my healer-to-be shammy, I can't help but say that I love healing almost as much as tanking. Maybe it's because my main is a prot warrior and I can't help but notice that the difference in things you have to keep track of is very refreshing.
Most likely when the dual specs come, my shammy will be main spec Resto/off spec Enhancement, whereas my warrior will stay Protection(especially since it's so sexy now *g*) and Arms off spec(which frankly is almost as good fun). Anyone can dps - I just generally find tanking and healing more interesting :D
Vocenoctum Nov 8th 2008 7:13PM
I have 4 70's, hard to pick a "main", but it'd probably be my warlock for soloing...
I have a prot-warrior, I leveled as prot-spec and it was slow, and now suddenly I'm powerful, it's great! Tanking always seems like a lot of work, but I haven't tanked since 3.0.2.
Healing is fun, requires attention without demanding non-stop focus, holy priest has a bit of a variety of spells without being overwhelming or repetitive.
But, lately, I've found that tanks are just getting sloppy. The idea that you can build agro so easily has made them lazy about it to the point they lose agro. Always rushing forward with no regard for the rest of the group, and most of the pug's lately don't even bother with cc.
So, of course, when someone dies, suddenly they shift blame to the healer. (Because it's my fault when the rogue dies? Screw him! :-p
So, if this persists in Wrath, I imagine I'll be tanking just to avoid the aggravation of someone else tanking. (And I'm not exactly the best tank in the world.)
FoxOfWar Nov 9th 2008 4:56AM
Well, thankfully there is the fact that as a tank, I very much strive to be as good as I can. And keeping aggro now is so easy in the lvl 70 content that after getting the mob's attention for sure(and keeping it) I move onto the next priority: keeping the mitigation up.
As a healer I have noticed another tank priority that some people just miss: healers need mana to heal. Particularly off-spec healers when healing low-to-the-instance-tanks that have no idea whatsoever what they're doing. One SFK run our tank was so busy getting through that our main healer(holy priest) was out of mana, then it was soon me healing and subsequently out of mana. We'd just survive through the few chain-pulls... then the tank would pull more. *sigh*
Tanking now is easy, it is no reason to get sloppy. I actually kinda like how it's somewhat easy to keep aggro - it will, in time, make it easier to see who really are the tanks who do their "homework", and who strive to do the extra 10% dps when everything else is said and done.
Then again, I don't PuG with my main the tank. It's just too expensive to wipe in a pug because some hunter/warlock/mage/rogue etc. has never heard of aggro management. Also, it's frustrating to wipe on stupid things like that.
Vocenoctum Nov 9th 2008 11:41AM
Right, they keep rushing forward to the next encounter regardless of mana, and I've also seen a bunch where they have gone from "pulling" to "charging", with no regard for where that puts them. When they've got caster mobs or any other mob just out of range, they don't adjust, they just think "tanking is so easy, it'll take care of itself!"
Other players have also gotten sloppy, a boomkin in one pug kept pulling before the warrior.
I think the power-buff has simply made a lot of marginal players very sloppy, and can't wait until Wrath sorts them out.
FoxOfWar Nov 9th 2008 2:21PM
Yeah, it has made people sloppy. But it's just one border that will separate the "great" from the "decent" tanks. Of which, I hope to keep on the above. ;)
Andrew Nov 8th 2008 5:59PM
As a tankadin, I foresee no problems coming back and destroying heroics for the achievement, either solo or with someone's alt healer.