Ask A Beta Tester: Kalecgos, Wintergrasp, and how much is this going to cost me?

EDIT: several commenters have taken issue with the lack of a spoiler warning on this post when it went live at 9:00 pm EST. I genuinely apologize; it should have occurred to me to write one, and it's entirely my fault that one wasn't present. So consider this fair -- if belated -- warning that there's a significant, if general, spoiler in this AABT concerning an important quest chain in Wrath, and if you're trying to avoid spoilers completely, please do NOT read AABT. This column is nothing but a pile of spoilers compressed into a spoiled package and tied with a spoilery bow.
Willferal asks...
I know that in Wotlk, the players are fighting Malygos. But in TBC, Kalec/Tyri are blue dragons that help us, and Kalec is especially vital in his help to kill Kiljaeden. What's their role in Wrath?
I wish I knew. I never found any mention of Kalecgos while leveling, and Tyrygosa only got a brief mention at last year's BlizzCon. Tyrygosa's role in BC wasn't that extensive, but Kalecgos was all that and a box of crackers in Sunwell, so this is a little...mystifying. They both seem on passable (Tyrygosa) to good (Kalecgos) relations with the mortal races, so the involvement of their entire flight in Malygos' war would -- I hope -- concern them somewhat. I really hope Blizzard goes somewhere with this, but as of now I don't think you can expect to find anything in Northrend.
Carang asks...
I love professions. Probably one of the first things I will do is buy grandmaster for all of my toons professions. Do you know how much its going to cost to train grandmaster?
Hmmm. I wish I had a more accurate figure on this, but I do vaguely remember getting to Northrend on my main and being able to train up grand master herbalism, alchemy, fishing, cooking, and first aid all within short order (from what I've seen this is true of the starter areas for both factions; you'll find trainers for just about everything you need within a stone's throw of getting off the boat/zeppelin). By the time I got through training up the next skill level plus new recipes, I think I was out somewhere in the region of 350-400 gold. Bottom line; take some spare change with you.
Myshkii writes...
Enchanting-wise, are we gonna see something like in TBC where there were items that could only be used on items with ilvls of 35+?
Yup. Most of the new enchants have level requirements with the most common one being 60.
TheChao writes...
Where the hell is that last picture from?
This is from a real beauty of a quest given at level 75 by Chromie, the representative of the Bronze Dragonflight in the Wyrmrest Temple. It's called Mystery of the Infinite and it's an effort to determine the leader of the troublesome Infinite Dragonflight (the ones you spent so much time battling in Caverns of Time). You meet your future self on this quest (as we've previously observed, your future self considers your past self a noob), and there's a follow-up quest at level 80 called Mystery of the Infinite, Redux where you travel back in time to meet your past self doing the first quest. I promise it all makes more sense when you actually do it. I never got the chance to do the second quest, but the first one was an absolute blast.
Frostymage asks...
After the wrath gate quest horde characters get to retake the undercity with all the horde leaders. My question is what do the alliance players get?
The recently-returned King Varian Wrynn decides to go road-tripping and you're invited to The Battle for the Undercity. The Alliance and the Horde are after the same goal, at least initially; they want the people/demons responsible for what happened at the Wrath gate. The Horde kills Varimathras; the Alliance kills Grand Apothecary Putress. Directly afterwards, Wrynn essentially declares war on the Horde in revenge for Bolvar Fordragon's death. Whether or not he's justified in doing so is going to be the subject of much argument.
Filed under: Items, Analysis / Opinion, Expansions, Features, Leveling, Enchants, Wrath of the Lich King






Reader Comments (Page 1 of 3)
Jagoex Nov 9th 2008 9:20PM
A spoiler warning might be good here. ;)
Xicuzab Nov 9th 2008 9:39PM
Ditto yea spolier warning.
jwilk Nov 9th 2008 9:46PM
+3 on the spoiler warning.
I've been able to avoid a lot and this last week a huge plot point gets killed by a crappy half edited Ask A Beta Tester post.
AtomB Nov 9th 2008 9:49PM
oh yeah, cause this must be your first time reading, Ask a Beta Tester. there have been spoilers in all of these posts...
Fraufrau Nov 10th 2008 1:14AM
'Ask a Beta Tester'
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Ya thunk uts gut summin ta do wit da Beta?!?!
Gormaggus Nov 10th 2008 2:26AM
What happened to the spoiler warnings? :(
Ikarus Nov 10th 2008 6:19PM
Ok, Ill try to not be rude.... If you read this post and didn't know there was going to be spoilers...This article is about WotLK, a game not yet out. Therefore any info herein will be a spoiler on some level. Take some responsibility as an intelligent, literate individual and apply a little common sense. If you don't want spoilers don't read about a game not yet out.
/facepalm
Jagoex Nov 10th 2008 10:22PM
Personally, I choose not to group Game Mechanics and Lore into one overall heading that is subject to "spoilers." In other words, just because there is information out there about a game not yet released doesn't mean it is of the spoiler type. Reading this column, you should also know that.
So, to me, it is nonsensical to assume as such.
Daniel Whitcomb Nov 9th 2008 9:52PM
I figure I'd note that Tyrigosa wasn't exactly completely noble in Burning Crusade, since her main aim was to enslave the Nether Drakes. I mean, I guess she'd technically probably be a better master than say, Illidan, but her aim and methods are pretty dodgy.
Moage Nov 9th 2008 10:06PM
"Ask a Beta Tester" is asking about the expansion I.E. asking about various spoilers about the expansion. If you didn't want to read spoilers why would you read this article anyways?
Cezoram Nov 9th 2008 11:57PM
I can find you at least 2 quotes that say they aim to avoid spoilers in the "Ask a Beta Tester" feature. That's what people expected, it seems.
Leviathon Nov 9th 2008 10:07PM
After playing in the Beta is seemed Blizzard changed their mind quite a bit about the storyline in Borean Tundra. I remember originally part of the quests in the zone would deal with fighting the Naga who were trying to melt the ice but now there is only 1 living Naga in all of Northrend and she gives you 2 quests.
There is also no mention at all about the Netherwing which were supposed to have been what made Malygos regain his sanity and declare war on magic users.
Jagoex Nov 9th 2008 10:09PM
Sure, AtomB, this is probably not the first read of this column for many, but for those that do not wish to have the plot spoiled pre-Wrath, a warning would be nice, especially because the title of the post seems innocent enough (seems to focus on monetary cost).
polar22 Nov 9th 2008 10:16PM
It costs 35g per profession, and 50g for First Aid. New recipes are about 2-16g each. Source: http://www.warcraftecon.net/?p=98
Shadowfire Nov 9th 2008 10:20PM
I love the spoiler warning you put up there!
Nitekko Nov 9th 2008 10:46PM
Maybe you shouldn't read ASK A BETA TESTER if you're worried about spoilers. It's not WoW Insider's job to protect you from spoilers.
Jagoex Nov 9th 2008 10:56PM
"Ask a Beta Tester" encompasses a lot of things--class change applications, UI, questing, itemization, and other game play related issues, for example--that many WoW players are interested in reading about.
It is not an automatic assumption to many (dare I say most?) that the column includes potential spoilers. Thus, it makes sense to have a warning when questions or topics of that nature are involved.
And sometimes, a simple title just isn't enough.
Rhoan01 Nov 9th 2008 10:53PM
It's called "Ask A Beta Tester". It talks about (as of now) unreleased content from Wrath of the Lich King.
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That's kind of a spoiler warning in and of itself.
Amaxe Nov 9th 2008 10:59PM
I thought the spoilers were well handled via links. It was common knowledge that there was going to be a confrontation. However all the hype thus far was the horde side of the quest.
One hopes that they give the Alliance side excellent motivations and not give the whole thing a pro-horde slant to it. (The commentaries I read from most sites was very anti-Alliance).
The stories to the quests seem to hint at some good things. That is a positive compared to BC where it seemed to be written for the Horde at several places with a token Alliance version that seemed to make no sense (Old Hillsbrad for example) for them to even be involved.
Mr42 Nov 11th 2008 3:14AM
@OH: well, i agree Old Hillsbrad is generally horde-related, but you cannot say alliance would have no interest in preserving the timeline knowing what Aedelas Blackmore was up to.