Ask a Lore Nerd: What's coming our way?

On this very special edition of Ask a Lore Nerd, we're going to look into the future, at what's to come in Wrath of the Lich King. There's a lot on the horizon, and a lot of questions about what's to come. We're going to try to be light on spoilers, but give some idea of what's going down.
Yeah yeah, so there's a Troll zone, we learn the origins of Humanity, we meet some Tauren relatives, there's some junk about Dwarven royalty and all of that crap. Who cares? What about the Gnomes? Where's the Gnome lore!?
In the Borean Tundra! That's where it starts, anyway. There's certainly Gnome lore, and it starts at the Fizzcrank Airstrip in the very northern reaches of the Tundra. No, you're not retaking Gnomeregan or anything like that, but there's definitely a lot of history in what you see. Following Gnomish tradition, the story has a distinct fantasy feel laced with whimsical sci-fi.
I heard we were going to interact with Arthas a lot in Northrend. Is that true?
Yes. Very much yes. Wrath doesn't pull any punches as far as thrusting you right into the story. You'll be running into the Lich King very quickly after you reach Northrend shores. The Alliance starts seeing him a bit earlier if you quest in the Howling Fjord, but it evens out.
Tirion Fordring is an Alliance town in Wrath, but he was a neutral character before. Does the Horde get the shaft or something? We want to interact with him, too.
Tirion Fordring does indeed make an appearance in one of the Alliance newbie zones, but he doesn't sit still very long. He has his intro, and then moves on to bigger and better things. Both factions will be interacting with him in a very epic way when we meet up with the Argent Crusade in Icecrown.
So I hear a lot about these vrykul guys. What the heck are they?
The vrykul are a race of humanoid giants that are very viking-esque. 'Giant' may be the wrong word because WoW already has giants and these aren't them. They're very very big humanoids with ties to the Titans. They're ruled by their king, King Ymiron. They're a very ancient race that have been 'hibernating' for the last... uh, really long time. They've only recently started to wake up, and see the Lich King as a Death God of sorts. They now live in his service, and the strongest of the vrykul fight at Valhal become the Ymirjar, the Lich King's personal servants. Those found unworthy become the Vargul, sort of the clunky, ghoulish undead version of the vrykul.
That leads into another question that's been asked of the WoW Insider crew pretty often...
That sounds pretty Norse-influenced. Is there a lot of that in Northrend, or is it limited to the vrykul?
Northrend is very, very heavily influenced by Norse mythology. The Vrykul are the most blatant examples. The Ymirjar are the Einherjar, Valhal is Valhalla, and the Lich King also employs the Val'kyr, which are valkyries. It's a pretty blatant lift, but it's also pretty awesome. I'm not going to complain. It definitely extends beyond that as well. The Titans are heavily based on Norse gods and deities. For example, two of the Titans we learn of in Northrend are Loken and Freya, based on Loki and Freyja. It extends beyond that, but those are the biggest examples. You'll see a lot of it.
So what's up with the Dragons in Northrend? I know Malygos is acting weird, but I heard the Black Dragons have joined Alexstrasza's alliance, the Wyrmrest Accord? What's up with that?
Wyrmrest Temple is a sacred place for all dragons. It's sort of a sanctuary. You know how the Horde and the Alliance aren't supposed to fight in Shattrath? Wyrmrest Keep/Temple is a lot like that for dragons. The Blue Dragonflight isn't welcome anymore because they've broken the peace accord and attacked the Temple. A representative of the Black Dragonflight is there, begrudgingly agreeing to peace. Likely for survival or their own gains, but Alexstrasza sees fit to at least allow a representative of the Blacks. The Black Dragons definitely have something going on though, considering the Obsidian Sanctum portion of the Temple is one of our new raid zones...
So Malygos attacked the Wyrmrest Temple? What's up with that? Has he lost his mind?
Yes and no. You learn a lot about what he's doing while questing in the Dragonblight. He's very extreme in his methods, but he's decided there's no other way. Even the Kirin Tor and the Red Dragonflight agree with Malygos to some extent. They agree magic is out of control and something needs to be done to reign it in. Malygos is just of the opinion it needs to be forcefully taken away from all mortals, not simply controlled better. His methods are causing a little too much death for Alexstrasza's liking and obviously the Kirin Tor are Malygos' top targets.
So is Malygos evil? Yeah, his methods are very much wrong and the related quests will drive that point home. He has his reasons and they make total sense to him given Azeroth's history, but it's not something the Kirin Tor and the Red Dragonflight can let him get away with, even if they would've agreed with him had he been less extreme.
Do we see anymore of those Faceless Ones we saw in Warcraft III?
Yep! The Faceless Ones are servants of the Old God Yogg-Saron, who seems to be directly at odds with the Scourge and the Lich King. Yogg-Saron might also have ties to the Nightmare in the Emerald Dream... but you'll have to do the quests and find out for sure, won't you?
This is only a handful of the things people have really been interested in seeing. There is a crapton (that's a metric unit of measurement I think) that's going on in Northrend. This is quite seriously just a teaser. Here's a tip for you guys: Explore every corner of every zone eventually. Even if you don't cover entire zones from 70-80, go back later and do it. You'll find stories tucked away everywhere.
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Reader Comments (Page 1 of 3)
XeroHedgehog Nov 9th 2008 8:16PM
Regarding your comments about Malygos' possibly being "evil", I'd like to think of him more as an anti-villain - one who believes his cause is righteous and for the good of the people, but his means are considered to be cruel by those outside of his chosen caste. He obviously believes that something has to be done about the rampancy of magic, but the way he goes about it pisses a lot of people off.
Now for a question. Whenever there's war, there's profits to be made, so I can't help but think the Venture Co. or some other profiteering faction is at work in Northrend. Any confirmation on this?
Ariel Nov 9th 2008 8:26PM
XeroHedgehog, I agree with you about Malygos. He's not out to dominate the world or slaughter innocents, he's doing what he believes is necessary to right the state of magic.
Llothtank Nov 10th 2008 12:55AM
Well, the Scarlet Crusade view their cause as righteous, even though their methods may be a bit...extreme. So that argument is a bit iffy. Although, Malygos is not evil, he has most definitely lost his sense of reason. If you have read the WoW books you would know that Malygos went completely insane after Deathwing evaporated the entirety of the blue flight using the Demon Soul. Thanks to Krasus (Korialstrasz) going back in time and saving a handful of blue eggs, he was able to save the blue flight from extinction...which in hindsight is apparently a bad thing. So no, Malygos isnt evil...he is just madly deranged and has had a rather traumatic set of experiences.
alwaypwns Nov 10th 2008 7:08AM
The main thing he wants to avoid is another Sundering. The use, or overuse, of magic is what caused the Burning Legion to find Azeroth, and thus try to destroy it. As an aspect, Malygos has been appointed to protect Azeroth. If the overuse of magic is what has caused big problems in the past, remove magic in the present and you theoreticly remove many big problems in the future. Compared to the Sundering, the lives lost in Malygos' war to reclaim magic is a tiny drop in the bucket.
Hehe, its actually very similar to our reasoning to invade Afganistan and Iraq. Not exactly retaliatory, not exactly preemptive... Somewhere in between.
Muse Nov 9th 2008 8:19PM
And even when you think you've found everything there is to discover, you've missed something, somewhere. You'll run across it a year down the line and go, "Whoa, was that here the whole time?"
Ariel Nov 9th 2008 8:26PM
I can't wait to delve into this on the live server either. Beta was fun!
Hinalover Nov 9th 2008 8:33PM
I know the fact that Tyrygosa, who can be found in Netherwing, brought back some Netherwing dragons, which helped Malygos bring back his...disturbed sanity. But do we meet up with Tyri herself again in Northrend?
Dukannon Nov 9th 2008 8:33PM
I really wanted my Death Knight to be called Einherjar, because it fits perfectly. Sadly the name is already taken on my server, along with a few more cool names from Beowulf :(
Vaultan Nov 9th 2008 8:40PM
If you've levelled Inscription or equipped a glyph, you're already delving into Norse influence. The power to make words stay was considered a potent magic in some early Germanic cultures, and one saga depicts Odin undergoing a near-death experience atop the World Tree with the sole purpose in mind of learning the runes.
Tanglebones Nov 9th 2008 8:57PM
Actually, in almost every ancient pantheon the god of writing is also the god of magicians, or the keeper of potent magical forces... i can think of Hermes, Thoth, and Enki off the top of my head. Odin is an interesting case though, because unlike the others, Odin is also the most powerful/nominal leader of his gods.
SBKT Nov 9th 2008 8:50PM
Here, we call it a crapTONNE.
Moltare Nov 9th 2008 9:14PM
Actually, I believe a crapton is the Imperial measure. Certainly in England we use the metric arseload.
Thiosion Nov 9th 2008 9:16PM
Question:
Why did Night Elves make the switch from stone to lumber? All the Night Elven ruins that are inhabited by Naga are made of stone, whereas current Night Elf settlements are made from wood. I would think they would be opposed to chopping trees down. The old explanation was that their structures were ancients that grew themselves from wisps, but... Auberdine's dock doesn't exactly have a face.
Andelorn Nov 10th 2008 2:32AM
The Elves didn't have as much of a love of nature back when they ruled the world. Druidism only came into the Elf culture AFTER everything was blown up, when Cenarius started teaching his thing. That's when they retreated into the trees and became Night Elves, kicked the non-mutated remains of the Highborne who still used Arcane magic over to Eastern Kingdoms, and began the civilization that they have today.
Aldewey Nov 9th 2008 9:27PM
Theirs a neet question i have to ask for a lore nerd, so how can i ask such a person to get it posted?
Wolly Nov 9th 2008 11:10PM
So is every blue dragon now KoS for every other dragonflight? Probably not, but with all the help we've had from some of them before I'd hate to find that the others had automatically placed a stigma on them just because of their kill-crazy leader.
Also, just how much Old God love are we going to see in the expansion? They've got to be one of the most compelling forces at work in the WoW universe and it'd be a real treat to see Yogg-Saron manipulating the scenes against the good guys and Arthas.
Ben Nov 9th 2008 11:19PM
As much as I enjoy the complexities of the motivations of various characters in WoW lore, it frustrates me that in WoW itself these motivations are always swept aside in favour of: BAD GUY = KILL.
Not a single raid instance has allowed for the complexities of the huge characters we are annihalating, completely nullifying any and all lore related to them.
I wish it weren't so.
Aldheim Nov 9th 2008 11:54PM
Such is the peril of having us play as player-created entities rather than the heroic lore figures, as we did in WC3. Our primary means of interacting with things is in combat.
That said, it seems like Arthas/The Lich King is getting proper treatment, although I'm sure his fight will ultimately boil down to Arthas yelling "Frostmourne Hungers!", many Sunders/Sinister Strikes/Fireballs/etc. being thrown at him, and somebody yelling "Die, fiend!" until he complies.
Michel Nov 9th 2008 11:41PM
yes.
sometimes, I would love the "big bad guy" beaten in the raid, says :
"stop! okay okay, I see your point, I ask peace. we are retreating, I pay the reparations, and here is some artefacts" "- good. now you come with me for judgment."
and Behold! not another dead corpse and destruction of a good character.
Maybe a "bad" guy could come back in future like a "good" guy. "do you remember me ? This time I here to help !".
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It seems, in mostly all american stuff, redemption is impossible if it's not by DEATH. Whatever the crime, even not so hateful ones. You are BAD and I know one punishment : death!
Yeah, I dare to imagine what would be the end of the apple war in Shattrah ^^, Oh I know : death in an epic war (but only with 25 persons).
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Okay Malygos send his armies, but, did he torture people, destroy cities ? Did he ask sacrifices of young girl ?
But still, it's impossible to reason him after a good fight, not to control him or whatever. He is a BIG BLUE Dragon and you have to roast him to hell, even if you have red dragons (old pals (!) ) with you to help.
"you are crazy to kill me" "-you force me " "-whatever.. GAH !"
(I would like a big animation (quest) after a raid, where you bring back the whole boss in city, to be judged. It would be epic. not just the head.)
Sagara Nov 10th 2008 4:43AM
Don't want to spoil too hard. But Malygos does NOT leave a corpse...
He can most probably be dead, but then again... "Pulling a Kael", anyone?