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11-15-2008 @ 7:32PM
Listen to all the sour grapes! These guys did in *three days* what it will probably take my guild months to do, and what many of you will never do. Congrats to them all.Maybe the nerf bat has been wielded a little too strongly, maybe not. But all your gobbing off makes you sound like whiny jealous pre-teens - which is probably what many of you are. Grow up and have the balls to recognise an outstanding achievement when you see one.
11-16-2008 @ 10:00AM
Sour grapes?The biggest actual complaint here is not that they got world first but their attitude towards it. Who gives a shit if they "beat" wrath? Grats to them. As most people here have said, we're still levelling and having a blast, and I'm sure when we get to those raids we'll have fun too.The issue, and it's something we saw from Nihilum in TBC as well, is this attitude that Blizzard should be catering specifically to them and to a lesser extent the other top end hardcore guilds. "Worries" that are thinly veiled posturing, complaining and chastising Blizzard because there's nothing left for them to do, even though the vast majority of the playerbase is still progressing happily through the contentThese people make up a tiny TINY fraction of the playerbase, and are not the people Blizzard should be focusing on.So congratulations to this guild for their accomplishment. I'm sorry that you found it so easy, but realistically that complaint means nothing to 99% of people currently playing the game.
11-16-2008 @ 9:22PM
Firstly, it doesn't "mean nothing to 99% of the players" - raiders represent a much larger percentage than that, and over-nerfing of content to the point where little challenge remains is a concern I would guess applies to most of those. What percentage of players have Ret Pally mains? A small percentage - so should we not be concerned with issues of Ret Pally imbalance, and should Blizzard not care about their concerns? Every player is in some minority demographic, and every player has the right to voice their concerns. The top raiding guild in the world, after clearing all of the expansion content, certainly has the right and the qualifications to make comment.Next, I read 25Nov's comment and didn't read it as "thinly veiled posturing". When I, as a raider, read the news that all endgame raid content had been beaten a) in largely T6 gear, b) with some toons that weren't even lv80, and c) in three days after release, I wondered the same thing - has Wrath been over-nerfed? That is a perfectly reasonable question to ask, and it should be asked.Did 25Nov come out and say "w00t w00t we are awesome and everyone else is a noob, you all suck!!"? No they didn't. They voiced a legitimate concern that represents the concerns of a significant demographic in the WoW playerbase. If you levelled 70-80 in 20 minutes having only done 8 easy quests, would you voice a concern about levelling being nerfed? If you were handed endgame PvP gear from a vendor at level 71 to put all PvPers on an equal footing, would you voice a concern about lack of reward? That is, essentially, what has been handed to endgame raiders in this expansion.I am not saying that you should all jump onto the raiding cause - play the way you want to play. But don't drag down a significant achievement and try to take your blinkers off to see things from raiders' perspectives because this is a significant issue for them. Look up Tall Poppy Syndrome on wikipedia and take a good hard look at yourselves.
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